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[Bolder]

That schedule worked out for Lance pretty well...that aside, I'm fine with Jonas only racing selectively. He's got two GTs on his plate this year.

 

[Red Rick]

I'm not sure how Vingegaard dodges exactly because he's going to the TdF for the GC for a 6th season in a row.

 

[James M]

in fact, he has never avoided evenepoel and pogacar in a stage race. not once

I think you miss the point here or maybe I am cause its nothing to do with Pogacar thats so irrelevant here.

People simply looked forward to it because Jonas is a really good rider, and they wanted to see him against Remco. For most fans, thats all it is not all this other stuff. Its not a stretch to get that disappointment is shared by Jonas fans and non Jonas fans evidently.

 

[Cycling111]

Nobody has said he's avoiding Remco. It's just that he might not be in the numbers he expected, like in the Algarve last year (he won, but it's clear he struggled more than expected on the climbs).

Remco is also riding in races where he knows he'll dominate. That's not a criticism; many top riders have done it to start with confidence.

 

[Netserk]

That schedule worked out for Lance pretty well...that aside, I'm fine with Jonas only racing selectively. He's got two GTs on his plate this year.

armstrong didnt ride another gt in his tour years. vingegaard has planned two every year after his first tour win

armstrong never did anything of note in the spring stage race.

froome and contador are comparable to vingegaard. armstrong is not

Man, the armchair psychologists on this fourm are getting worse by the day. Vingegaard is aiming to ride pretty much the five biggest stage races in the world each and every year. What more do you want from a specialist stage racer?

i think it stems from his personality, how he handles media, and his first two post-tour seasons

first impressions can be sticky, no matter how much he races since then

 

[Netserk]

I think you miss the point here or maybe I am cause its nothing to do with Pogacar thats so irrelevant here.

Nobody has said he's avoiding Remco.

hmm

Vingegaard deliberatly avoids many of the biggest races where he would likely do well but is unlikely to beat Pogacar and Evenepoel

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm not sure how Vingegaard dodges exactly because he's going to the TdF for the GC for a 6th season in a row.

I suppose you could argue it's only the 5th season in a row he's going to the TdF for the GC.
In 2021 it just... kinda happened.

 

[Squire]

i think it stems from his personality, how he handles media, and his first two post-tour seasons

first impressions can be sticky, no matter how much he races since then

It's not just Vingegaard either. I'm sick and tired of how a lot of people on this forum invent things that supposedly goes on in the heads of bike riders, and project all sorts of insecurities onto them. Don't know why, this wasn't really the case to such extent ten years ago. Maybe it's a social media thing. If elite pro bike riders were such emotional train wrecks as some people here seem to like to think, the riders wouldn't be anywhere near being elite pro bike riders.

The top riders are concerned with maximizing performance and results in the races most important to them and the team, and will plan a calendar around where they can achieve that. Whether some rival may or may not ride Paris-Nice is quite far down the list of things influencing these decisions.

 

[red_flanders]

Yeah, that's a strange complaint to have about Vingegaard. When injuries haven't stopped him, he's been riding warmup race -> Paris-Nice/Tirreno -> Itzulia -> Dauphiné -> Tour -> Poland/Vuelta pretty much every year. The other riders know where to find him.

Racers seek out races, not opponents.

 

[red_flanders]

People simply looked forward to it because Jonas is a really good rider, and they wanted to see him against Remco. For most fans, thats all it is not all this other stuff. Its not a stretch to get that disappointment is shared by Jonas fans and non Jonas fans evidently.

Personally I could not care less about whether he does or doesn't face any particular rider. That's fan nonsense.

He's a great rider and a lot of folks think he'd be great in some of the hilly classics. That's really all there is to it. Ride a couple hilly classics dude, you're an important rider and it's good for the sport. Kind of a mystery to me why he doesn't. But it hardly keeps me up at night.