But somehow it seems mind blowing when I say Remco is only the best in the world in flat TTs. I already mentioned, if we had 3 TTs (MTT, hilly TT and a flat TT) in a GT, Pogacar would probably beat Remco if we combined time.
And like people already told you, it's a ridiculous measurement to combine time
It's not mind blowing, it just seems unnecessary to me.
Are they hilly? Since 2019 we don't have a "hilly" TT. And how many times did we have a really hilly TT? 2017 Austria and?It's not mind blowing, it just seems unnecessary to me.
I agree that in your example Pog would probably beat Remco on combined time but, as Berniece already explained, that doesn't make him the better TT rider overall imo.
TT's in Grand Tours (especially in the second and third week) will always favor GT riders, even when they are (relatively) flat. I think standalone events like the Championships are a better measure to decide who is the best TT rider. Well that and the sheer amount of wins and podiums in a TT ofcourse.
I really don't get why saying Remco is (as of now) the best ITT rider is a debatable take and why there is the need to specify it might 'only' be the case on flat or medium hilly parcours.
But I'm also not going to lose any sleep over it so I will end the discussion on my part here and leave it be.
Is Remco a GT rider?It's not mind blowing, it just seems unnecessary to me.
I agree that in your example Pog would probably beat Remco on combined time but, as Berniece already explained, that doesn't make him the better TT rider overall imo.
TT's in Grand Tours (especially in the second and third week) will always favor GT riders, even when they are (relatively) flat. I think standalone events like the Championships are a better measure to decide who is the best TT rider. Well that and the sheer amount of wins and podiums in a TT ofcourse.
I really don't get why saying Remco is (as of now) the best ITT rider is a debatable take and why there is the need to specify it might 'only' be the case on flat or medium hilly parcours.
But I'm also not going to lose any sleep over it so I will end the discussion on my part here and leave it be.
Next year there's a hilly WC TT. Maybe after next year you can claim Pog is the best TT rider in the world at that time. I promise I won't be here to specify that he is only the best TT rider on hilly TT's.
Yes, just not as good as Pog/Vingegaard. I assume you got my point though.
I agree but to be fair a MTT is a slightly different category as it is ridden on a road bike not a TT bike usually.
He said WC TTs are a better measure but how many hilly or mountain TTs did we have recently? Why Pogacar is the best GT rider in the world? Because he is the best all around rider in the world and that is the type of rider that should win GT's. If we have 21 pancake flat stages, would no longer be the best GT rider.
But it is an individual effort. You choose to ride on a road bike but you could ride in a TT bike. It is an option.
If both Remco and Pogacar race the WC TT close to their peak, I will be the first to say Remco is the best in hilly TTs too (if he beats Pogacar). I don't have any problem admitting when I'm wrong.Next year there's a hilly WC TT. Maybe after next year you can claim Pog is the best TT rider in the world at that time. I promise I won't be here to specify that he is only the best TT rider on hilly TT's.
If only Pog does the Vuelta, Remco may have an advantage due to fatigue from the Vuelta.
GT riders have an advantage due to better handling fatigue, and that goes for all GT GC riders. So it equal between all GT GC riders.
Which is the thing that matters, big wins.
Ah yes! Both Alan Filip and Wow for'n Ært have won just a single monument. Surely either LBL or GdL and RvV or PR respectively, right? No. As in neither and neither!
Alaphilippe palmares > WvA palmares and it's not even close.
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