The Jai Hindley thread

[yaco]

He did win the Herald Sun Tour and the Fuzhou tour as an U23. It was these rides that got him his WT place

He was third in the 2017 Giro behind Sivakov and L.Hamilton.

 

[Lequack]

He's back!

 

[Red Rick]

If Hindley wins the Giro he will go down as the rider with the shortest time gap between having his own thread on the CN forum and winning a GT.
Quite an achievement considering even my grandma probably has a dedicated topic on here.

PS: I voted all the options in the poll just for the lulz.

Fk I forgot to make a Safebet Grandma thread.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Now he's a top2 favourite to win this Giro.

 

[Lequack]

Is his TT better than Carapaz?

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Is his TT better than Carapaz?

No

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Is his TT better than Carapaz?

I don't think so. I'm not expecting any significant differences between them in the TT but it could be crucial if the mountains don't separate them.

 

[groogster]

Is his TT better than Carapaz?

No. Let’s put it this way… if tomorrow was the final stage and with the timegaps atm Almeida would probably gain around 30/35 seconds to Carapaz and 40/45 seconds to Hindley. So I predict that in the itt Carapaz could gain something around 5/10 seconds for Hindley. For Hindley to have a shot of winning this Giro he needs to be ahead of Carapaz at least 5/10 seconds and around 40 seconds ahead of Almeida. The same for Landa because both Hindley and Landa will be around the same time in the iTT

 

[Extinction]

I don't think so. I'm not expecting any significant differences between them in the TT but it could be crucial if mountains don't separate them.

The Mortirola-Aprica stage will be crucial. Judging from today's stage and the Blockhaus climb, Carapaz could put time into Hindley there.

 

[Red Rick]

I think the Hindley having a better sprint for bonifications so far seems more important than the gap between them in the ITT.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The Mortirola-Aprica stage will be crucial. Judging from today's stage and the Blockhaus climb, Carapez could put time into Hindley there.

Yet it was Hindley who cought Carapaz comfortably on steep sections of Maddalena today.

 

[Extinction]

Hindley could yet surprise, his team proved stronger than Ineos today and he's on the same form as when he was 2nd two years back.

 

[Lequack]

Hindley could yet surprise, his team proved stronger than Ineos today and he's on the same form as when he was 2nd two years back.

He's probably on better form.

 

[Extinction]

He's probably on better form.

Well, we shall see after Mortirolo-Aprica.

 

[Extinction]

Although, come to think of it, Bora clearly wanted to put Carapaz under presure and effectively isolated him, although the Ecuadorian was still the strongest in the final stages of the race (bar Yates, who, however, had the luxury of having nothing to lose and so bided his time as the GC leaders battled it out).

Now this could mean Bora is tired tomorrow and Ineos today was playing the long game, keeping its powder dry for the last brutal week of this Giro. Still, that Carapaz was so easily isolated leaves some doubt about the solidness of Ineos.

 

[ice&fire]

He's probably on better form.

But the question is... do you think Carapaz is as good as TGH?

 

[AlfaLum]

But the question is... do you think Carapaz is as good as TGH?

TGH would have won this giro in the final week.

But now that he is not participating we will call the giro 2022 a fluke result.

 

[red_flanders]

TGH would have won this giro in the final week.

But now that he is not participating we will call the giro 2022 a fluke result.

Unless and until he confirms with a similar win, it was. Against a fairly weak field.

 

[AlfaLum]

Unless and until he confirms with a similar win, it was. Against a fairly weak field.

Of course. But it is not that different from the field that this years winner will have won against.

 

[red_flanders]

Of course. But it is not that different from the field that this years winner will have won against.

I agree, not that different, except for Carapaz, who I would consider a step above. But generally not a terribly strong field.

 

[Extinction]

Although, come to think of it, Bora clearly wanted to put Carapez under presure and effectively isolated him, although the Ecuadorian was still the strongest in the final stages of the race (bar Yates, who, however, had the luxury of having nothing to lose and so bided his time as the GC leaders battled it out).

Now this could mean Bora is tired tomorrow and Ineos today was playing the long game, keeping its powder dry for the last brutal week of this Giro. Still, that Carapez was so easily isolated leaves some doubt about the solidness of Ineos.

This seems to confirm my thoughts that Bora did a big dig today, whilst Ineos is playing the long game:

“I think on this kind of day it’s much better to be aggressive than to sit in the bunch,” Gasparotto said afterwards. “Today was the kind of day where we had to use the collective. Later on, the stages have more of a Big Tour rhythm. Ineos will probably take control of that and it’s much more difficult to invent something. We had to take this day to do it.”

 

[Cookster15]

Hindley is confirming 2020 was no anomaly. I think he might beat the forum’s sentimental favourite but we will see. He has certainly recovered his 2020 level but is two years stronger.

 

[42x16ss]

Hindley could yet surprise, his team proved stronger than Ineos today and he's on the same form as when he was 2nd two years back.

Like Almeida, I'd say he's better, after having had 2 years to develop train and build with GC expectations. Carapaz and Landa are a different calibre to TGH and Kelderman

 

[42x16ss]

This seems to confirm my thoughts that Bora did a big dig today, whilst Ineos is playing the long game:

“I think on this kind of day it’s much better to be aggressive than to sit in the bunch,” Gasparotto said afterwards. “Today was the kind of day where we had to use the collective. Later on, the stages have more of a Big Tour rhythm. Ineos will probably take control of that and it’s much more difficult to invent something. We had to take this day to do it.”

It looked like a good day for both Bora and Ineos, in terms of Bora dictating in their terrain and Ineos being spared for theirs.

This will get interesting

 

[42x16ss]

But the question is... do you think Carapaz is as good as TGH?

Carapaz is far better, it's not even close.