The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Bala Verde]

I have two theories:

1-) Gastroenteritis=diarrhea=rapid weight lost
2-) Gastroenteritis=diarrhea=massive dehydration=sudden blood values change

take your pick

Under one however your weight loss is mainly achieved through dehydration, so I doubt that is the desirable type of weight loss for a cyclist.

 

[Krap Police]

blah blah blah

I thot U said U were leaving this forum. Full-o-krap?

 

[flicker]

Hey is Robin Leech still alive? He could fly his film crew to Lances' casas so that we could get up close and personal with Lance Armstrong. I would love to see his man-cave. I think the show Robin Leech had on E was Liefstyles of the Rich and famous.

 

[Digger]

Actually BPC, you could be on to something.

Lance could be struck down with some ailment that he has tried to get rid of at least 30 times yet it just keeps coming back.

Any thoughts on how to kill this disease?

Determination...hope...and awareness. There's someone out there right now who will have the runs in July, see Lance, and think, I can beat this thing and mircaculously walk away from the toilet.
Will Kimmage change his statement to say the "sh** was in remisson, but now it's back?"

 

[thehog]

Under one however your weight loss is mainly achieved through dehydration, so I doubt that is the desirable type of weight loss for a cyclist.

Lance updated his Twitter. Thankfully he's made a full recovery and flying back to the States. Just in time for Luke's derby. He's an amazing man and father.

 

[Digger]

Lance updated his Twitter. Thankfully he's made a full recovery and flying back to the States. Just in time for Luke's derby. He's an amazing man and father.

Some would say an inspiration. I prefer incredible.

 

[thehog]

Some would say an inspiration. I prefer incredible.

I can see people lining the streets with little brown wrist bands in support of Lance overcoming diarrhoea. Its one of the US’s largest afflictions and there is still a huge stigma with people having the sh1ts. I think Lance can raise awareness for this condition. Sh1Tstrong will be the new message from now on. Imagine a world where people can get the runs and not feel they have to be ashamed of crappng their pants?

 

[Digger]

I can see people lining the streets with little brown wrist bands in support of Lance overcoming diarrhoea. Its one of the US’s largest afflictions and there is still a huge stigma with people having the sh1ts. I think Lance can raise awareness for this condition. Sh1Tstrong will be the new message from now on. Imagine a world where people can get the runs and not feel they have to be ashamed of crappng their pants?

We can live in hope....maybe there'll be a new ad in July. I;m not doing it for them (the media), I'm doing it for them - cuts to people sitting on toilets. Same effect as last year's ad though, they both made me want to vomit.

 

[Anonymous]

We can live in hope....maybe there'll be a new ad in July. I;m not doing it for them (the media), I'm doing it for them - cuts to people sitting on toilets. Same effect as last year's ad though, they both made me want to vomit.

People need to be more understanding. You don't choose crapping your pants, crapping your pants chooses you. Thankfully the early-detection rate is quite high and the number of people in remission is increasing every year.



in-crease ing. Tee-hee.

Ahem. Sorry.

 

[Bala Verde]

Lance updated his Twitter. Thankfully he's made a full recovery and flying back to the States. Just in time for Luke's derby. He's an amazing man and father.

And him having the runs for 1-2 days was world news

I am glad it hasn't affected his TdF prep.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Maybe Lance ought to think about borrowing the Footon kit for a while.

His ass seems like a tap, at the moment, that he can turn on and off, when it suits him.

 

[progressor]

I can see people lining the streets with little brown wrist bands in support of Lance overcoming diarrhoea. Its one of the US’s largest afflictions and there is still a huge stigma with people having the sh1ts. I think Lance can raise awareness for this condition. Sh1Tstrong will be the new message from now on. Imagine a world where people can get the runs and not feel they have to be ashamed of crappng their pants?

I haven't been here since last week. What was your excuse for still posting here? Happy to forget about the naked pics

 

[Digger]

I haven't been here since last week. What was your excuse for still posting here? Happy to forget about the naked pics

He is bringing a message of hope. Come on, don't be so cynical.

 

[altark123]

I can see people lining the streets with little brown wrist bands in support of Lance overcoming diarrhoea. Its one of the US’s largest afflictions and there is still a huge stigma with people having the sh1ts. I think Lance can raise awareness for this condition. Sh1Tstrong will be the new message from now on. Imagine a world where people can get the runs and not feel they have to be ashamed of crappng their pants?

Hog I know you don't like Armstrong for various reasons, but whether you like him or not, can you honestly deny the progress he has made in raising cancer awareness and making substantial strides in funding and research? He has used his celebrity to team with world leaders to help fight cancer, I really don't see how you can hold that against someone regardless of what he has done on the bike, or what personality he has.

 

[Publicus]

So the latest update on Lance's schedule is that he will he skipping the Dauphine and riding the Tour of Switzerland. I can't say that I am surprised.

 

[Publicus]

Hog I know you don't like Armstrong for various reasons, but whether you like him or not, can you honestly deny the progress he has made in raising cancer awareness and making substantial strides in funding and research? He has used his celebrity to team with world leaders to help fight cancer, I really don't see how you can hold that against someone regardless of what he has done on the bike, or what personality he has.

Why not? Is it so hard to believe that not everyone views him as you do? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but folks are entitled to their own opinion. He is not above criticism or reproach, yes even with respect to his work for advancing cancer awareness. If I were you, I would just let this slide and
move on to more productive topics of discussion.

 

[thehog]

to help fight cancer

Tell me. How does one fight cancer? What do you do to fight it? Can one man really fight it all by himself?

He raises awareness. He doesn't fight cancer. Lets get real about the net worth of what he does.

 

[Anonymous]

Hog I know you don't like Armstrong for various reasons, but whether you like him or not, can you honestly deny the progress he has made in raising cancer awareness and making substantial strides in funding and research? He has used his celebrity to team with world leaders to help fight cancer, I really don't see how you can hold that against someone regardless of what he has done on the bike, or what personality he has.

Armstrong has gained far more from cancer than cancer has from Armstrong.

 

[Cerberus]

Hog I know you don't like Armstrong for various reasons, but whether you like him or not, can you honestly deny the progress he has made in raising cancer awareness and making substantial strides in funding and research? He has used his celebrity to team with world leaders to help fight cancer, I really don't see how you can hold that against someone regardless of what he has done on the bike, or what personality he has.

I don't know how old you are, but if you can recall a time before Armstrong was a celebrity, do you recall anyone who wasn't "aware" of cancer? You'd be hard pressed to find a disease that has less need of having it's public profile raised. I believe that around 1/3 of the population in western countries gets cancer at some point of their life. Practically everyone knows someone who'd had cancer or who died from it. There are many causes that needs celebrity endorsement to make headlines, but cancer isn't one of them, at least not in my experience

 

[thehog]

I don't know how old you are, but if you can recall a time before Armstrong was a celebrity, do you recall anyone who wasn't "aware" of cancer? You'd be hard pressed to find a disease that has less need of having it's public profile raised. I believe that around 1/3 of the population in western countries gets cancer at some point of their life. Practically everyone knows someone who'd had cancer or who died from it. There are many causes that needs celebrity endorsement to make headlines, but I don't think cancer is one of them, at least not in my experience

Well certainly not to be personally paid to do so.

 

[Jonathan]

I don't know how old you are, but if you can recall a time before Armstrong was a celebrity, do you recall anyone who wasn't "aware" of cancer? You'd be hard pressed to find a disease that has less need of having it's public profile raised. I believe that around 1/3 of the population in western countries gets cancer at some point of their life. Practically everyone knows someone who'd had cancer or who died from it. There are many causes that needs celebrity endorsement to make headlines, but I don't think cancer is one of them, at least not in my experience

I have noticed that cancer has become associated with struggle and aggression-like metaphors. Many people don't claim to have been cured from cancer, they have 'beaten cancer' or 'fought cancer'. In a recent publicity campaign in the Netherlands, a famous swimmer who survived cancer was depicted with a sword in his hand. There were no references why he was holding it - apparently the connection between cancer and fighting is quickly recognized by viewers.

The 'combat metaphor' is spilling over to other diseases, but I'm quite sure it has become most widespread in communication about cancer. And I think that Armstrong has played an important role in this. It has been my impression that the notion that you beat cancer (rather than survive it or just be cured) became most widespread in the last decade.

Would this be a good or a bad thing? I don't know. What I would see as a positive side is that the combat metaphor implies a kind of empowerment of patients. At the same time, it also implies that those who succumb could have fought harder. Cancer patients are, as a rule, not in control of their destiny and depicting the development of their disease as a struggle could suggest that they can overcome the disease when they really can't. In some cases, learning to live with cancer as a factor in one's live is the challenge, rather than getting rid of it.

Also, I have read accounts by cancer patients who just don't recognize their way of coping with the disease in the combat metaphor. A patient might feel quite passive during the various treatments, and the implicit instruction to 'get up and fight' could be utterly inappropriate.

Finally, it should be recognized that there is probably no evidence that the mental attitude of a patient truly influences the disease. In other words, I think a patient taking a passive stance is just as likely to survive as a patient who is determined to 'beat this enemy'. Having a mind like Armstrong probably won't factor in the effectiveness of the cure, and I do hope that the funds associated with his name make that clear. It would be unfortunate if patients feel inadequate because they don't feel like 'fighting'.

Sorry to write so extensively about this, but health communication has been part of my studies, so I just had all kinds of associations with the subject. The image of cancer in mass media deserves a lot of study and would make a fine research subject. It could even focus on Armstrong, as a thesis.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Tell me. How does one fight cancer? What do you do to fight it? Can one man really fight it all by himself?

He raises awareness. He doesn't fight cancer. Lets get real about the net worth of what he does.

That's just it, right there. One fights cancer through raising awareness and money so that others effected with the disease will have access to better care.

Not a single person denies the positive impact it's had on his bank account, but you keep reminding us.

Jealousy rears its ugly head.

 

[kurtinsc]

Lance doesn't deserve any real recognition for "cancer awareness". That whole thing about it being the reason he came back last year is pure bull.

That being said, he DOES deserve credit for starting the Lance Armstrong Foundation. Their goals don't really have anything to do with "cancer awareness"... instead they provide support and services for those surviving/recovering from cancer... and they do good work in that area.


The biggest issue I have with Lance's comeback was the whole "cancer awareness" thing... because it got tied to the LAF. A lot of people thing that's what the LAF does due to his statements regarding awareness.. and that's NOT a good thing. The whole awareness thing was stupid... but it was entirely a "lance" thing... not a LAF thing.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

I don't know how old you are, but if you can recall a time before Armstrong was a celebrity, do you recall anyone who wasn't "aware" of cancer? You'd be hard pressed to find a disease that has less need of having it's public profile raised. I believe that around 1/3 of the population in western countries gets cancer at some point of their life. Practically everyone knows someone who'd had cancer or who died from it. There are many causes that needs celebrity endorsement to make headlines, but cancer isn't one of them, at least not in my experience

I think you're missing the point here: "raising awareness" means making people aware of the treatment options, educating them on what to expect while undergoing treatment (chemo, radiation, etc), teaching them how to cope while living with the disease, and end of life care. It's not simply going out and saying, "Hey I wanna talk about cancer; Cancer is bad...EM-K."

EDIT: Another thing they do is promote healthy lifestyles and preventative care to hopefully limit the number of those diagnosed each year. It's all part of "raising awareness." Making you aware of ways to lower your chances of getting a disease that exists in countless forms, and then making you aware of the options you have once diagnosed.

 

[Jonathan]

The biggest issue I have with Lance's comeback was the whole "cancer awareness" thing... because it got tied to the LAF. A lot of people thing that's what the LAF does due to his statements regarding awareness.. and that's NOT a good thing. The whole awareness thing was stupid... but it was entirely a "lance" thing... not a LAF thing.

I agree. He had a lot of opportunities to actually raise awareness but he concentrated on talking about the races and who was the leader in his team. It was about the bike, not cancer.