The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Anonymous]

Another *** rising to the bait. Don't you Lance obsessives realise he is only taking the p!ss.

Must be tough going through life taking yourself so seriously.

Humor. Get some.

 

[Roland Rat]

Hmmmmm. I'd be worried. Very worried.

If Lance can hold wheels now and he amps it up at the Tour with the blood the guy is going to be right up there.

Scary thought.

I don't think I could watch the Tour in that situation. Phil'n'Paul would be unbearable.

I would watch the stage after he was carted away by the police, though, to see what they said then.

 

[Anonymous]

Another *** rising to the bait. Don't you Lance obsessives realise he is only taking the p!ss.

Another *** that doesn't understand the reference. SoCal was saying that the poster in question overdid his trolling. You have to hold back some, going full *** will not get you the Oscar. Not surprising you didn't understand.

 

[Mellow Velo]

I know what I see. I see a ban coming on.........

 

[Denkoff]

Ban ? You cant do it this video ling is my legal comment

 

[thehog]

I don't think I could watch the Tour in that situation. Phil'n'Paul would be unbearable.

I would watch the stage after he was carted away by the police, though, to see what they said then.

You may think I jest but it’s a big gamble by all those involved. If Uncle Lance starts climbing and mixing it with the big boys how’s the media going to play it this time? I can’t see them writing the glowing write-ups they used to. They’re going to reference the Landis claims. I’m seriously worried that cycling is going to made to look a joke again and not by positive tests but from Armstrong climbing like its 1999. That’s just going to be stupid. I really am scared.

 

[therhodeo]

I was really surprised reading a Jens Voigt interview last night while wasting time at Hastings that he said the podium would be the same three guys just not sure of what order. I don't see Lance having it and obviously Jens would be biased towards Andy but I think there are other guys out there who could push him off the podium too.

 

[wattage]

If Lance wins number 8, this forum will explode

 

[alberto.legstrong]

If Lance wins number 8, this forum will explode

So you're saying this forum will not explode.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

You may think I jest but it’s a big gamble by all those involved. If Uncle Lance starts climbing and mixing it with the big boys how’s the media going to play it this time? I can’t see them writing the glowing write-ups they used to. They’re going to reference the Landis claims. I’m seriously worried that cycling is going to made to look a joke again and not by positive tests but from Armstrong climbing like its 1999. That’s just going to be stupid. I really am scared.

You're not even close, they will just write the fairytale ending if that happened.

Sorry, we usually agree.

 

[Oldman]

You're not even close, they will just write the fairytale ending if that happened.

Sorry, we usually agree.

Wouldn't this depend on any additional information or developments coming out of pending investigations? If the current news is all that we have it will be stale by Tour time and I'd agree with alberto. LA's spin machine will have ample time to continue descrediation of Landis' claims, etc. Any new fuel for the fire could make it a bigger story than the Tour itself.

 

[Barrus]

You may think I jest but it’s a big gamble by all those involved. If Uncle Lance starts climbing and mixing it with the big boys how’s the media going to play it this time? I can’t see them writing the glowing write-ups they used to. They’re going to reference the Landis claims. I’m seriously worried that cycling is going to made to look a joke again and not by positive tests but from Armstrong climbing like its 1999. That’s just going to be stupid. I really am scared.

To be quite honest this truly is the worst case scenario. This sport will lose all credibility, as little as it still has, if Lance suddenly wins another one. Yes, the American press might write a fairytale, but I believe in Europe this would be Festina levelcredibility loss in the eyes of the general public

 

[jens_attacks]

To be quite honest this truly is the worst case scenario. This sport will lose all credibility, as little as it still has, if Lance suddenly wins another one. Yes, the American press might write a fairytale, but I believe in Europe this would be Festina levelcredibility loss in the eyes of the general public

no,it would be cool.
of course,a lot of pubers will cry.eyes of the general public?!!!!!!gtfo,the general public doesn't give a xxxx about doping,only some fanboys or haters,people who don't have a life.that's all.

 

[Barrus]

no,it would be cool.
of course,a lot of pubers will cry.eyes of the general public?!!!!!!gtfo,the general public doesn't give a xxxx about doping,only some fanboys or haters,people who don't have a life.that's all.

Really, that's not really the impression I get around here

 

[theyoungest]

no,it would be cool.
of course,a lot of pubers will cry.eyes of the general public?!!!!!!gtfo,the general public doesn't give a xxxx about doping,only some fanboys or haters,people who don't have a life.that's all.

You couldn't be more wrong. The general public thinks cycling is full of dopers, and a lot of them don't like the sport because of that.

 

[Mellow Velo]

You may think I jest but it’s a big gamble by all those involved. If Uncle Lance starts climbing and mixing it with the big boys how’s the media going to play it this time? I can’t see them writing the glowing write-ups they used to. They’re going to reference the Landis claims. I’m seriously worried that cycling is going to made to look a joke again and not by positive tests but from Armstrong climbing like its 1999. That’s just going to be stupid. I really am scared.

Yes. It would be an absolute disaster for cycling, in the long term.
While he would receive the plaudits amongst his fans and in the lowbrow, general sporting press, the heavyweight media would have a speculative field day.
Ultimately, the sport's credibilty would hit a lower level than that of pro wrestling.

Were then any of Landis's accusations to then bare fruit.........

The Festina Affair and OP would seem like a walk in the park.

It takes a monumental ego to put the whole sport into such peril.

 

[Barrus]

Yes. It would be an absolute disaster for cycling, in the long term.
While he would receive the plaudits amongst his fans and in the lowbrow, general sporting press, the heavyweight media would have a speculative field day.
Ultimately, the sport's credibilty would hit a lower level than that of pro wrestling.

Were then any of Landis's accusations to then bare fruit.........

The Festina Affair and OP would seem like a walk in the park.

It takes a monumental ego to put the whole sport into such peril.

This makes me speculate on something. Does Armstrong hope to win the tour, not for the money, nor the fame, but for his position in cycling. If he wins again, the UCI and most riders can't do anything but protect him, or the entire sport will do down in a ball of flames. Or does LA think if I'm going down, I'll make damn sure everyone else is going down with me, if I go, I'll make the entire sport a barren wasteland

 

[jens_attacks]

Really, that's not really the impression I get around here

around where?around this forum?))cause this forum is full of fanboys and haters,all of them pubers of course.
now ask some people in the real life,people who aren't cycling fans,what they think about this landis affair?they won't give a fucc about it.life is a fuccing show,enjoy it.

look at the world cup,no one gives a **** that they all use PEDs.it's a beautiful show,you don't have to stay like in cycling competitions asking yourself:"shiit,will my favourite get busted?will they ban him for two fuccing long years?"cycling is such a fucced up sport.still i love it.

about lance,i hope he can fight.a top 5 is my prediction for him.

 

[Barrus]

Around here is in the Netherlands and well, everywhere where I spoke to people about cycling (I do need to confess that this was prior to the Flandis-affaire, the talks outside of the Netherlands) Everybody talks about doping in cycling and of late most talk of the Landis0affair, especially if something new will come out. People generally do not give a rats @rse about doping in other sports, but people do care about it in cycling. Landis was big news, whether you recognize this or not. A lot of people already recognized LA as a doper, although many others still believe him. But Landis was a big deal and will certainly be brought up during the tour, especially if LA suddenly becomes one of the best again, and if he wins I believe it will be a sh1tstorm of epic proportions in Europe which will become even worse if something comes out of the Landis investigations, people will call for retroactively stripping LA of all his tour titels

 

[alberto.legstrong]

look at the world cup,no one gives a **** that they all use PEDs.it's a beautiful show,you don't have to stay like in cycling competitions asking yourself:"shiit,will my favourite get busted?will they ban him for two fuccing long years?"cycling is such a fucced up sport.still i love it.

about lance,i hope he can fight.a top 5 is my prediction for him.

A question for all to ponder:

Cycling and cycle racing is beautiful, more beautiful than words give me the ability to convey. But there is a darkness to it, of which doping is only a (large) part, but not its entirety.

Would I/we feel the same way about it without the dark element?

I don't have an answer, only a question.

 

[Deagol]

....people will call for retroactively stripping LA of all his tour titels

That sounds complicated, but at this point it seems like maybe it clould be the right thing to do (???).

Of course, then you have the question of whomever is retroactively declared the winner, would that result be just as suspicious and therefore meaningless?

 

[Mellow Velo]

Nobody gives a fucc if footballers dope, because football is considered a religion to be idolised.
It is where we get the term fanboy from. OTT hero worship.

Funnily enough, I think a lot of cycling followers got rather p*ssed off, when OP covered up the names of Fuentes's footballers, while the footballing world was happy to see it buried.

 

[Oldman]

A question for all to ponder:

Cycling and cycle racing is beautiful, more beautiful than words give me the ability to convey. But there is a darkness to it, of which doping is only a (large) part, but not its entirety.

Would I/we feel the same way about it without the dark element?

I don't have an answer, only a question.

I'd hope so. The attachment I have to the sport is from participation so the investment in pro exploits is minimal to me.
The dark history has always been there and will always be to some extent, was kept under wraps and the level of exploitation by those involved usually confined to the sport. The current scandal involves so much media and more institutions outside of the sport than ever that it needs to have full exposure. Other sports have been raggedly dealing with similar fraud involving their stars so it's not just a cycling issue.

 

[kurtinsc]

You couldn't be more wrong. The general public thinks cycling is full of dopers, and a lot of them don't like the sport because of that.

I can assure you that's not the opinion of the general public in the US.

When news came out about the Landis claims, everyone I know who knows I follow cycling came up and said "Did you hear about this? It's stupid, everyone knows Lance never tested positive, and is more tested then anyone else."

Most couldn't name another cyclist... not even a US great like Lemond.

It's funny because when I say that Lance doped, but so did all the other top cyclists... that gets me labeled as a "fanboy" on this message board... but when I say that to people in the office who think Lance is the best cyclist ever, I'm viewed as a "hater".

 

[Barrus]

I can assure you that's not the opinion of the general public in the US.

When news came out about the Landis claims, everyone I know who knows I follow cycling came up and said "Did you hear about this? It's stupid, everyone knows Lance never tested positive, and is more tested then anyone else."

Most couldn't name another cyclist... not even a US great like Lemond.

I think this is one of the major differences between the US and Europe and why it is and will likely remain for a long period of time a mainly continental European sport. The sport in many other countries is built on a few wins or good appearances of individual riders, which over the long run is not sustainable for the sport. I think this is also one of the most damaging things LA has done, built a cult around himself. That way if he falls, so will most of the cycling in the US, which truly is a shame, especially for the teams over there who will get in real heavy weather if LA is found out and it will be a struggle for them to survive.