The Olympic Road Race 2016. Rio de Janeiro. 253km

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Who will win Olympics Road Race 2016 Rio

  • Belgium (Gilbert, Wellens)

    Votes: 18 7.3%
  • Colombia (Henao, Uran)

    Votes: 9 3.6%
  • France (Alaphillipe, Bardet)

    Votes: 27 10.9%
  • Great Britain (Froome, Thomas)

    Votes: 32 12.9%
  • Ireland (Dan Martin, Roche)

    Votes: 13 5.2%
  • Italy (Nibali, Aru)

    Votes: 32 12.9%
  • Netherlands (Poels, Mollema)

    Votes: 21 8.5%
  • Poland (Kwiatkowski, Majka)

    Votes: 16 6.5%
  • Spain (Valverde, Rodriguez)

    Votes: 53 21.4%
  • Other (Vino...again)

    Votes: 27 10.9%

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IndianCyclist said:
Froome has one of the best chances. His TDF wins in 2013 & 2015 are all based on 1st mountain stage attack. Similar to one day race. However due to less teammates, tactically he has a big problem

Flat for 150km, controlled by a team setting a high tempo to prevent accelerations, followed by a mountaintop finish is nothing like this at all.
 
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Casually expecting Froome to do the double.
Then oust brad wiggins as the british cycling golden boy.

Meanwhile. I've got froome at 5/1 for the ITT. When bookmakers stupidly had dumoulin :lol: as odds on favourite.
 
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Oliwright said:
Meanwhile. I've got froome at 5/1 for the ITT. When bookmakers stupidly had dumoulin :lol: as odds on favourite.

Stupidly? If Dumoulin is anything close to being recovered, he's still the favourite.
 
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infeXio said:
Oliwright said:
Meanwhile. I've got froome at 5/1 for the ITT. When bookmakers stupidly had dumoulin :lol: as odds on favourite.

Stupidly? If Dumoulin is anything close to being recovered, he's still the favourite.

To have Dumounlin as odds on and Froome at 5/1 after the 1st ITT is crazy!
Froome finished 1:03 back on Dumoulin, on a similar course to that of Rio.
Dumoulin had finished 27mins further back on the previous stage!
Whilst froome had all the fatigue from having riden GC up to stage 13, whilst Dumoulin had only been active in 1 stage.
If they both had been as tired as each other we would have seen a different result.
Also the wind was blowing which favours the significantly heavier rider in Dumoulin.

I'm not saying Froome will beat Dumoulin but the odds were stupid.
 
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Oliwright said:
infeXio said:
Oliwright said:
Meanwhile. I've got froome at 5/1 for the ITT. When bookmakers stupidly had dumoulin :lol: as odds on favourite.

Stupidly? If Dumoulin is anything close to being recovered, he's still the favourite.

To have Dumounlin as odds on and Froome at 5/1 after the 1st ITT is crazy!
Froome finished 1:03 back on Dumoulin, on a similar course to that of Rio.
Dumoulin had finished 27mins further back on the previous stage!
Whilst froome had all the fatigue from having riden GC up to stage 13, whilst Dumoulin had only been active in 1 stage.
If they both had been as tired as each other we would have seen a different result.
Also the wind was blowing which favours the significantly heavier rider in Dumoulin.

I'm not saying Froome will beat Dumoulin but the odds were stupid.

Whilst the 5/1 odds for Froome is a tad high, there shouldn't be any denying that Dumoulin is the stand-out favourite, especially for a TT-event like at the Olympics. The TT's in events such as the Olympics and the WC, should in theory favour the pure time-trialists such as Dumoulin, as fatigue and recovery doesn't play as big a role as it does in a GT.
Froome isn't without chance by any means, but all things considered, Dumoulin should be the major favourite, so I wouldn't exactly label the Froome at 5/1 stupid as such
 
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Oliwright said:
infeXio said:
Oliwright said:
Meanwhile. I've got froome at 5/1 for the ITT. When bookmakers stupidly had dumoulin :lol: as odds on favourite.

Stupidly? If Dumoulin is anything close to being recovered, he's still the favourite.

To have Dumounlin as odds on and Froome at 5/1 after the 1st ITT is crazy!
Froome finished 1:03 back on Dumoulin, on a similar course to that of Rio.
Dumoulin had finished 27mins further back on the previous stage!
Whilst froome had all the fatigue from having riden GC up to stage 13, whilst Dumoulin had only been active in 1 stage.
If they both had been as tired as each other we would have seen a different result.
Also the wind was blowing which favours the significantly heavier rider in Dumoulin.

I'm not saying Froome will beat Dumoulin but the odds were stupid.

The TdF ITT was 37km. The Rio ITT is 54km. Dumoulin gained on Froome in every sector in the TdF ITT. 17 sec, 15, 16, 15. If you extrapolate that to 54km the gap grows to 1.35. (and would probably be more. The longer the distance, the better for the pure TTer.)

The TdF itt had 7km and 3,5km climbs at about ~5%. The olympic TT has 4 short ~1,5 km Ardennes type climbs with almost 45km rolling flat in between.

And the fatigue thing is highly overstated. They both had almost 2 weeks of racing in their legs going into that ITT. Yes, Froome will be fresh... So will Dumoulin...

Bottom line: Froome isn't touching a fit Dumoulin over this length on this course.
 
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I wonder how much influence the trade teams will have on the race. There's a Team Sky diaspora with Henao, Poels and Kyrienka riding for other countries than GB - not to mention ex-teammate Porte. Etixx has Alaphilippe and D. Martin in different shirts. Remember the Telekom scenario in Sidney 2000.
 
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Kiriyenka will probably treat Saturday as a training ride for the TT, and that may involve pulling the peloton along for 40km, or pulling the breakaway along
 
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TMP402 said:
The mods might want to sticky one of the several Olympic threads we have. Anyway, here's some video of the pavé section: https://www.instagram.com/p/BItSIkFgRPV/


Hardly Carrefour de l'Arbre. Looks more like that tourist thingy just before the velodrome in Roubaix...

Like I said before. The notion that the classics riders will distance themselves form GT riders on the first loop because of the profile is a pipe dream...
 
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Would like to see Wellens win a solo. Mostly to watch the chaotic/squabbly chase fail :)

No idea how it's going to pan out though. Getting quite excited about this and get to watch it live for a change
 
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I put what little remained of my assigned bet money after a failed summer of football bets on Rui Costa. Just a random feeling
 
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Wow I thought that was a training jersey or gabba-style thing. Why doesn't Romania have a yellow jersey :confused:
 
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I'm pretty excited about this race. As has been mentioned (and as is obvious), the small teams combined with the tough course make it a pretty broad spectrum of possible outcomes. Here are some of my thoughts:

Outcome 1 - Favourites until the end

If this is the case and the break has no bearing on the final, then it'll be a small group to fight it out, maybe less than 10 riders. This is the case where Valverde is the big favourite, unless Alaphillipe is also in the group. Riders with the ability to be up there would be the big guns - Valv, Nibali, Froome, Rodriguez kind of guys. But I think the chances of this straightforward outcome are pretty low, like between 10-20%, because there just isn't enough common cause to control things that tightly.

Outcome 2 - Late, strong break

This is, I think, the most likely scenario, like 50-70% chance. That would be someone like Costa or Kwiatkowski or Van Avermaet attacking, and some strong guys but secondary favourites from the major countries following (Rodriguez, Aru, Barguil). This could be where someone from a smaller country could capitalize, like the above mentioned riders, or Dan Martin, who has a decent finish. This attack would have a better chance of sticking if it went on the second last climb, or on the descent before the last climb. The bigger the group at the base of the last climb, the more likely it is that the best climbers are just gonna win the war of attrition. In other words, they probably won't let them away after the last climb has started, and the first attack will bring a response from the strongest riders, and then it's on from there. But if a solid attack happens before the favourites think it's time to spend energy, and if it coalesces into a strong enough break, it'll be pretty much impossible to pull back. Caveat: the climb is hard and long enough that the break doesn't have to be pulled back - if, say, Spain chases and keeps it to 30 seconds, I could see a few favourites bridging across.

Outcome 3 - Early break makes it/mixes with late break

This is the Olympics, so there aren't many weak riders, and depending on the makeup of the early break, it could go all the way. If some strong riders that aren't mountain goats (GVA again, or Wellens, or guys like Izaguirre, Cummings, Rosa, Mike Woods, Navardauskas, and on and on) get in there, they could be given some leash, and if the favourites' teams have riders up there (which, after seeing what happened in London, I would probably want as a favourite), it could go all the way, or be joined by late bridgers, or the favourites. There's probably an equal chance of this as scenario 1, or maybe even more.

That's the thing - I just don't know! So much will be determined by who ends up in the early break, and then secondarily, when the first real attack of the finale goes. This will be a tactical and unpredictable race, and I love it!

Who do you guys see going for the early break?
 
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PremierAndrew said:
Kiriyenka will probably treat Saturday as a training ride for the TT, and that may involve pulling the peloton along for 40km, or pulling the breakaway along
Flag bearing shouldn't be too tiring for him.
Late repose, might be, though.
 
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Sooooooooo.

What time do they start anyway? Blindly assuming finish will be some 6.5/7hours later
 
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sir fly said:
PremierAndrew said:
Kiriyenka will probably treat Saturday as a training ride for the TT, and that may involve pulling the peloton along for 40km, or pulling the breakaway along
Flag bearing shouldn't be too tiring for him.
Late repose, might be, though.

I had to double-take seeing him carry the banner just now.
 
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Red Rick said:
Sooooooooo.

What time do they start anyway? Blindly assuming finish will be some 6.5/7hours later

12.30pm European time I believe. Finish at 7pm
 
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The medals from this race going to be the first medals of the whole Olympics, right?
 
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luckyboy said:
The medals from this race going to be the first medals of the whole Olympics, right?

No. There's a shooting medal to be awarded first.
 
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I voted Spain, it is my country ad I hope they win, but I think Urán can win this. it would be nnice if Nibali does.

Froome has his chances as well.
 

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