Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The thing is that even with a better base technique he'd still be good sometimes and bad at other times, base technique isn't the only factor determining performance, and one could argue that it's in fact a minor factor.

I don't think one could argue that, seeing how often this is a problem.

I have to wonder if they ever actually taught him the theory behind it. Because even when you are in doubt or in fear, that can help you get through a tough corner, you just need to remember it. They once wanted to send him on a workshop with Cal Crutchlow. It was one of the best ideas they ever had. But they didn't go through with it.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Some Olympic Games recon pictures from yesterday, for those that are interested

He's not going/allowed to ride in his WCC jersey at the olympics either?? He usually also trains in that kit, but he's not wearing it here.

 

[Monte Serra]

He's not going/allowed to ride in his WCC jersey at the olympics either?? He usually also trains in that kit, but he's not wearing it here.

Indeed, no championship jerseys at the Olympics. Everyone has to wear their national kit.

 

[Taxus4a]

Anyone thought that Remco may not turn out as good a rider as he was spoken about, when coming through the juniors? Every cyclist/sportsperson has their limits on what they can do. This lad is spoken about all his flaws and the improvements that are needed so he can become this perfect cyclist in every race that he enters. He isn't. He isn't gonna be the best rider that people want him to be, not in every race. No wonder he feels so much pressure whenever he rides, when folk are dissecting every tiny detail in his performances. Let the lad just ride his bike to the best of his ability, and if he's good enough, then great, if not, whatever, he lost. Give him a break FFS.

Just one win, so if you dont say that of Remco you should say that of Tadej or Jonas...He can play to win almost every not thecnic and no very step race he start. But of course if people as Pohacar or Vingegaard are there, wont be easy.

 

[Berniece]

He's not going/allowed to ride in his WCC jersey at the olympics either?? He usually also trains in that kit, but he's not wearing it here.

Nope he isn't allowed, but that doesn't matter too much for his performance. Belgian federation invests a lot in the best gear, so he'll wear an outfit that fits him perfectly and will help him as much as his WCC jersey aerodynamically

 

[Andre]

Anyone thought that Remco may not turn out as good a rider as he was spoken about, when coming through the juniors? Every cyclist/sportsperson has their limits on what they can do. This lad is spoken about all his flaws and the improvements that are needed so he can become this perfect cyclist in every race that he enters. He isn't. He isn't gonna be the best rider that people want him to be, not in every race. No wonder he feels so much pressure whenever he rides, when folk are dissecting every tiny detail in his performances. Let the lad just ride his bike to the best of his ability, and if he's good enough, then great, if not, whatever, he lost. Give him a break FFS.

No

 

[Andre]

Some Olympic Games recon pictures from yesterday, for those that are interested

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Great photos Berniece. Thanks!

 

[Keldergoat]

Freaking hell, that jersey is ugly AF. Especially if you see it next to the beautiful Irish shirt it is atrocious.

 

[Andre]

Remco rode a superb Tour, he put a dagger into the doubters and the haters. His improvement is rising at a very high pace as of now and he'll get even better at climbing and descending. He even has room to improve his contre la montre. We are hoping for gold in the Olympics and another World Championship. I don't know how his form will hold out for the Italian Classics, but it's looking super good for next year as well. Barring any mishaps Remco will be ready for the Primavera races....all systems Go!

post script: eyes on Giro and Tour 2025

 

[Valanga]

Nope he isn't allowed, but that doesn't matter too much for his performance. Belgian federation invests a lot in the best gear, so he'll wear an outfit that fits him perfectly and will help him as much as his WCC jersey aerodynamically

The shirt he's wearing here looks like it was measured when he was still Fatco though.

 

[red_flanders]

The shirt he's wearing here looks like it was measured when he was still Fatco though.

I am beginning to wonder how many eating disorders are being created by the Remco/Fatco debates on this board...

 

[proffate]

I wanna see Remco win OGRR with a solo move from the gun. Here is the field. I feel like at least a third of that is just toast in the first 20km after the real racing starts.

 

[proffate]

Some Olympic Games recon pictures from yesterday, for those that are interested

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Of the TDF podium, little Remco is the only one who has forearms that look like they belong to an adult male. Other elite climbers look like they only experienced puberty on the bottom half.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

UCI should just do away with the WCC ITT jersey. If you win it, you can't wear it anyway, so what's the point. Can't wear it in a TTT, can't wear it when leading a classification, can't wear it when leading a sub classification, can't wear it instead of a national jersey. Evenepoel will have done 6 TT's this season after the olympics, and will have worn his WCC jersey twice. Thank god Martinez beat him on Foia, or he would only have been able to wear it once.

 

[proffate]

UCI should just do away with the WCC ITT jersey. If you win it, you can't wear it anyway, so what's the point. Can't wear it in a TTT, can't wear it when leading a classification, can't wear it when leading a sub classification, can't wear it instead of a national jersey. Evenepoel will have done 6 TT's this season after the olympics, and will have worn his WCC jersey twice. Thank god Martinez beat him on Foia, or he would only have been able to wear it once.

Should wear a rainbow helmet instead. TT helmets are rapidly growing to cover the same real estate as a jersey.

Or get rid of leaders' skinsuits. It's such a critical piece of performance equipment and it's ludicrous to handicap the leader.

 

[Oldermanish]

The thing is that even with a better base technique he'd still be good sometimes and bad at other times, base technique isn't the only factor determining performance, and one could argue that it's in fact a mi

Didn't it occur to you that there might be a link between jetlag and cornering ? That the jetlag might have impacted his cornering ?
You really think there's only one variable influencing your (cornering) performance, which is your intrinsic capability at taking corners ?
For example, the Vuelta ITT was not technical but there was a chicane that he took faster than anyone else. He did more recons of this ITT than any other rider. Maybe there's also a link here ?
Foss was faster in the corners than Remco and he was there for 2 weeks...


Sorry but that's not what he says, "Ik werk hier puur gevoelsmatig mijn beste tijdrit ooit af" is not the same as saying "ik rijdt hier mijn beste wattages ooit"...

In case you need other sources :

Championnats du monde: Foss, Küng et… le jetlag étaient plus forts que Remco sur le chrono

Médaillé de bronze du chrono, Evenepoel espère désormais effacer les stigmates du décalage horaire pour la course en ligne de dimanche prochain.

www.lalibre.be

Remco Evenepoel 3e du contre-la-montre: «Je tomberais bien de sommeil»

Troisième du contre-la-montre, Remco Evenepoel assure vouloir remporter un jour le titre mondial.

www.lesoir.be

I'd agree that recon for a TT is essential as much for confidence in speed management as crash avoidance. The reality is cornering is mostly about vision and line recognition. Remco's TT position is low enough that you can see him raising his head occasionally as he can't see the road....at all. That low posture is his power zone so changing head height, angle means he'll also be changing power and rythm. Every shorter rider that has a super aero position deals with this compromise. Jonas doesn't seem to be in as extreme posture but hard to tell what he can see with those monstrous helmets. Pogacar has an excellent perspective from his position and he may adjust it based on the course.

 

[memyselfandI]

As he's talking about recovery from the Tour is going slowly, not well maybe.. I kinda understand that, as he probably digged about absolutely everything out from himself this time. Mentally and physically. And did that way the Tour, he can be very proud at this point.

If tt is difficult, I hope he does not overdo too much, ease back take it easy, be positive not bitter, try to recover bit more towards road race. It's one tactical challenge once again.

I think he can win it even from VDP or others, if he can slip into small escapegroup of fast men. Sorta Terpstra way when they started attacking each other and he was slow amongst them but canny strong. One good timing. Or even if he goes two man escape far out with VDP, he can do it, he just needs to be mentally fresh so not overdoing tt if it doesn't flow.

And if he's getting nothing from OGs, it's just fine. If he gets something, it's extra. Because he did much bigger achievement in his Tour. Opinion.

 

[RJH]

I think key in current week is to do as little as possible. He came out of the Tour in perfect shape. Riding as little as possible afterwards, enough sleep, little but valuable nutrition, just one time going into the red for a very short time during this week, and he‘ll be super in OG ITT.

 

[houtdffan]

if he wins the gold tomorrow, I wish he'd skip the RR and go to the Vuelta instead. Spend a couple weeks at altitude

come down from altitude win the vuelta and sweep the worlds

 

[AmRacer]

if he wins the gold tomorrow, I wish he'd skip the RR and go to the Vuelta instead. Spend a couple weeks at altitude

come down from altitude win the vuelta and sweep the worlds

You can't replace an Olympic athlete. If he skips the RR, he let the Belgian team down.

 

[red_flanders]

if he wins the gold tomorrow, I wish he'd skip the RR and go to the Vuelta instead. Spend a couple weeks at altitude

come down from altitude win the vuelta and sweep the worlds

I'd like to see it. Not sure a week's difference is going to be deterministic with regard to those potential goals. I think with the late TdF peak (which I believe is how he timed it), it might be tough either way. Unless he's found out how to do a Pogi year-long peak. Then you can do anything.

 

[Sciatic]

You can't replace an Olympic athlete. If he skips the RR, he let the Belgian team down.

Plus, given the likely chaotic nature of the RR, he’ll have a shot at a win there as well. I wouldn’t think that’s something he or anyone else would want to pass up.

 

[houtdffan]

I'd like to see it. Not sure a week's difference is going to be deterministic with regard to those potential goals. I think with the late TdF peak (which I believe is how he timed it), it might be tough either way. Unless he's found out how to do a Pogi year-long peak. Then you can do anything.

With the lack of the other aliens, vuelta would be close to guaranteed victory

 

[RobertCrawley]

Crappy roads for the Olympic TT. Remco is unhappy the road has holes in it.

« Des routes de merde » pourraient venir lui gâcher la fête. Le champion du monde Remco Evenepoel, qui fera partie samedi des favoris du contre-la-montre de 32,4 kilomètres tracé entre les Invalides et le Pont Alexandre-III, a regretté la qualité des chaussées parisiennes.

Cyclisme : Remco Evenepoel critique les « routes de merde » du parcours du contre-la-montre des JO

Le Belge Remco Evenepoel a dénoncé la mauvaise qualité des chaussées qui seront parcourues samedi par les 70 coureurs (35 hommes et 35 femmes) engagés sur l'épreuve de contre-la-montre des Jeux Olympiques. Il est notamment question de trous dans le revêtement.

www.lequipe.fr

 

[mrgmyers]

Remco Evenepoel's performance in the Tour de France was impressive, especially considering it was his debut. His third-place finish and white jersey for best young rider demonstrate his immense potential and growth as a Grand Tour contender.

However, he still has some way to go before he can consistently challenge Tadej Pogacar at the highest level. Pogacar's dominance in recent years, with multiple Grand Tour victories and numerous other accolades, has been extraordinary. Comparisons to Eddy Merckx, while perhaps premature, highlight the level of talent and potential we're seeing in the young Slovenian.

Evenepoel is still very young and has ample time to develop and improve. He's already shown that he can compete with the best in the world, and with continued growth and experience, he could very well become a serious contender for Grand Tour victories in the future.

The rivalry between Pogacar and Evenepoel has the potential to be one of the most exciting in cycling history. It will be fascinating to watch their careers unfold and see how they push each other to new heights. But he has to be able to beat Jonas Vingegaard first! so I suggest he is still a rather a long way from being described as the New Eddie Merckx.