Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[red_flanders]

Remco's weight sure wasn't a problem on a 4 km, 10% climb that he obliterated everyone in San Sebastian..

I don't know. It's one thing to carry weight in a one day race, it's another for 3 weeks in a GT. Things add up. I'm not saying Remco is or isn't overweight, and have no way of knowing, but I disagree with the comparison to a one day classic in this case.

 

[memyselfandI]

I think he's good now. His weight is good and his mindset is good. Thumbs up people.

 

[Bonimenier]

I believe his obesity won't do him any good in the long run, but who am I to tell him what to do.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Ok, but this was during Valencia, he has lost 3.5kg since.

 

[Riek s]

I don't like the TTT for GC, because it gives the big budget teams an unfair advantage, especially today when GTs might be won by seconds not minutes. Cycling is a team sport, but GC isn't determined cumulatively within teams, but on an individual basis. Hence, the TTT should be a non-GC discipline.

I would prefer a prologue or short TTT as an opener
an ITT in the middle
an ITT at the end

one of the ITT can be a MTF as well.

Real climbers should be able to climb without someone pulling them.

 

[Vroome.exe]

Ok, but this was during Valencia, he has lost 3.5kg since.

Has anyone ever seen Remco and Betancur in the same room? If he misses Vuelta for some mysterious reason, the truth might reveal itself...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Remco has enough energy supply for a 30-week GT and would surely win such a race!

 

[Extinction]

I would prefer a prologue or short TTT as an opener
an ITT in the middle
an ITT at the end

one of the ITT can be a MTF as well.

Real climbers should be able to climb without someone pulling them.

Ah, but that's a bit unfair to the climbers' category. Today the Bigs fly up mountains, but "aren't climbers, and smoke the TTs. So what's left for the little fellers to do? I think in modern cycling this is why Pantani was so compelling to many. He was a real climber, who could, however, break the spirit and legs of other more all-rounded Bigs.

 

[Bonimenier]

Ah, but that's a bit unfair to the climbers' category. Today the Bigs fly up mountains, but "aren't climbers, and smoke the TTs. So what's left for the little fellers to do? I think in modern cycling this is why Pantani was so compelling to many. He was a real climber, who could, however, break the spirit and legs of other more all-rounded Bigs.

On the other side there are plenty of small riders who prove that they are capable of riding good to very good TTs as well nowadays.

 

[Extinction]

On the other side there are plenty of small riders who prove that they are capable of riding good to very good TTs as well nowadays.

Well, Remco comes to mind, but who are you considering otherwise? Vingegaard? Pogacar? They aren't of the Lucio Herrera or Bohamontes mold though. Even Evenepoel is more of a pitbull than the lithe gazzelle-like climbers.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Well, Remco comes to mind, but who are you considering otherwise? Vingegaard? Pogacar? They aren't of the Lucio Herrera or Bohamontes mold though. Even Evenepoel is more of a pitbull than the lithe gazzelle-like climbers.

Vingegaard resembles a concentration camp prisoner more than a pitbull though.

 

[Bonimenier]

Well, Remco comes to mind, but who are you considering otherwise? Vingegaard? Pogacar? They aren't of the Lucio Herrera or Bohamontes mold though. Even Evenepoel is more of a pitbull than the lithe gazzelle-like climbers.

I was mainly thinking of Vingegaard next to Evenepoel. I see him more as a pure climber compared to Pogacar for example. He only weighs around 60 kg.

 

[tobydawq]

Why are you posting a photo of Van Aert in his green jersey in this thread?

 

[houtdffan]

Ah, but that's a bit unfair to the climbers' category. Today the Bigs fly up mountains, but "aren't climbers, and smoke the TTs. So what's left for the little fellers to do? I think in modern cycling this is why Pantani was so compelling to many. He was a real climber, who could, however, break the spirit and legs of other more all-rounded Bigs.

The bigs cannot keep up with the smaller climbers when the accelerations start. That is where Pantani had such an advantage

 

[Extinction]

The bigs cannot keep up with the smaller climbers when the accelerations start. That is where Pantani had such an advantage

Yea, but I don't see the category of pure climbers of yore. I mean the best climbers in the world, when push comes to shove at the Tour, have also been much more than pure climbers, from Contador (pre-Clen), to Nibali, Froome and Roglic, Pogacar, even Vingegaard. In other words, they can also TT and some perform in the classics (Nibali, Pogacar), so not just mountain goats.

 

[frisenfruitig]

This whole discussion about his weight is so overblown. It's not like 63 kg is so much that it should cause problems uphill. Plenty of great climbers like Pogacar or Roglic aren't exactly built like thin climbers either.

 

[ciranda]

Vingegaard resembles a concentration camp prisoner more than a pitbull though.

Don't know if trolling or whatever but careful examination show that they look pretty similar except for Vingegaard's hunchback.

 

[frisenfruitig]

63 kg @ 1m71 vs 60 kg @ 1m77 isn't "pretty" similar imo

 

[Lequack]

Vingegaard had the power of yellow jersey, which adds 50W.

 

[spalco]

Don't know if trolling or whatever but careful examination show that they look pretty similar except for Vingegaard's hunchback.

Vingegaard really does look a bit emaciated. Maybe not Rasmussen/Froome two days from actual death of starvation, but still, his facial features especially. But maybe he just looks like that naturally.

Remco, Pogacar and Roglic also for example look much more like healthy "normal" guys.

 

[ciranda]

The point was both are not anorexic. Vingegaard's height is listed as 175, weight is not necessarily correct same as with Evenepoel.

 

[Flurk1982]

QS sports director Lodewyck withdraws from Vuelta with Corona.

 

[witeken]

Remco Evenepoel Vuelta bingo

 

[Bonimenier]

Remco Evenepoel Vuelta bingo

Winning the bingo by completing the 4th row would be impressive.