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Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

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I don't like the TTT for GC, because it gives the big budget teams an unfair advantage, especially today when GTs might be won by seconds not minutes. Cycling is a team sport, but GC isn't determined cumulatively within teams, but on an individual basis. Hence, the TTT should be a non-GC discipline.


I would prefer a prologue or short TTT as an opener
an ITT in the middle
an ITT at the end

one of the ITT can be a MTF as well.

Real climbers should be able to climb without someone pulling them.

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I would prefer a prologue or short TTT as an opener
an ITT in the middle
an ITT at the end

one of the ITT can be a MTF as well.

Real climbers should be able to climb without someone pulling them.

:)
Ah, but that's a bit unfair to the climbers' category. Today the Bigs fly up mountains, but "aren't climbers, and smoke the TTs. So what's left for the little fellers to do? I think in modern cycling this is why Pantani was so compelling to many. He was a real climber, who could, however, break the spirit and legs of other more all-rounded Bigs.
 
Ah, but that's a bit unfair to the climbers' category. Today the Bigs fly up mountains, but "aren't climbers, and smoke the TTs. So what's left for the little fellers to do? I think in modern cycling this is why Pantani was so compelling to many. He was a real climber, who could, however, break the spirit and legs of other more all-rounded Bigs.
On the other side there are plenty of small riders who prove that they are capable of riding good to very good TTs as well nowadays.
 
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Well, Remco comes to mind, but who are you considering otherwise? Vingegaard? Pogacar? They aren't of the Lucio Herrera or Bohamontes mold though. Even Evenepoel is more of a pitbull than the lithe gazzelle-like climbers.
I was mainly thinking of Vingegaard next to Evenepoel. I see him more as a pure climber compared to Pogacar for example. He only weighs around 60 kg.
 
Ah, but that's a bit unfair to the climbers' category. Today the Bigs fly up mountains, but "aren't climbers, and smoke the TTs. So what's left for the little fellers to do? I think in modern cycling this is why Pantani was so compelling to many. He was a real climber, who could, however, break the spirit and legs of other more all-rounded Bigs.

The bigs cannot keep up with the smaller climbers when the accelerations start. That is where Pantani had such an advantage
 
The bigs cannot keep up with the smaller climbers when the accelerations start. That is where Pantani had such an advantage
Yea, but I don't see the category of pure climbers of yore. I mean the best climbers in the world, when push comes to shove at the Tour, have also been much more than pure climbers, from Contador (pre-Clen), to Nibali, Froome and Roglic, Pogacar, even Vingegaard. In other words, they can also TT and some perform in the classics (Nibali, Pogacar), so not just mountain goats.
 
Don't know if trolling or whatever but careful examination show that they look pretty similar except for Vingegaard's hunchback.

Vingegaard really does look a bit emaciated. Maybe not Rasmussen/Froome two days from actual death of starvation, but still, his facial features especially. But maybe he just looks like that naturally.

Remco, Pogacar and Roglic also for example look much more like healthy "normal" guys.