Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[red_flanders]

Ok fine compare with these pictures instead.

I made no assessment about weight, the comparison was not about that. To repeat I see someone with muscular legs, thighs, solid upper body, not an anorexic guy, in addition a low aero position not that far from Evenepoel.

Not sure how this addresses anything I said. Why am I comparing Vingegaard to Vingegaard?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Not sure how this addresses anything I said. Why am I comparing Vingegaard to Vingegaard?

The question was, ''are they alike''?

PS: that first image was of Remco was pre-crash.

 

[red_flanders]

The question was, ''are they alike''?

PS: that first image was of Remco was pre-crash.

Hence my question about the second set of images.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Hence my question about the second set of images.

I was joking.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Ok fine compare with these pictures instead.

I made no assessment about weight, the comparison was not about that. To repeat I see someone with muscular legs, thighs, solid upper body, not an anorexic guy, in addition a low aero position not that far from Evenepoel.

You are wrong. Don't judge upper bodies when in TT position. Do you think Vinge has such a belly? This is true Vinge's upper body, compare it to Primoz, who's not big either. To sum up, Vinge is super thin, almost like a pipe.

 

[Valanga]

You are wrong. Don't judge upper bodies when in TT position. Do you think Vinge has such a belly? This is true Vinge's upper body, compare it to Primoz, who's not big either. To sum up, Vinge is super thin, almost like a pipe.

Roglič really looks like someone who just tried riding with no hands for the first time, while Vingegaard is all "Hey! Ho!".

 

[ciranda]

You are wrong. Don't judge upper bodies when in TT position. Do you think Vinge has such a belly? This is true Vinge's upper body, compare it to Primoz, who's not big either.

There's no big stomach in those pictures. It's a photograph, of course you can make a comparison, assessment, whatever, it's not less true. The muscular legs don't go away in the road races either. He's skinny, yes, you're talking about a stage race cyclist. So what? But not anorexic and I get tired of people compulsively writing that as an insult.

 

[spalco]

But not anorexic and I get tired of people compulsively writing that as an insult.

But who except you was even using the term anorexia here? I searched the last 10 pages and I found nothing. Krzysztof_O said he resembles a KZ survivor, which you may think was in bad taste, but clearly a joke.

edited to add: btw, even if Vingegaard was unhealthily underweight during the Tour, it probably wouldn't be a concerning problem for him since he was doing it purposely under medical survillance to reach a certain goal. It doesn't have to be sustainable if he's not on that weight continuously throughout the season. I sort of agree with you that medical diagnoses like that shouldn't be made in jest.

 

[Netserk]

FWIW Lemond said 1kg was worth quite a bit more than that over the length of a climb, so this is definitely a "modest" estimate.

Have a think and do the calculation. On Alpe d'Huez, an additional kg will cost you ~11.5 kJ. If you push 380 watts, that takes you 30 seconds.

For this to translate to an on-the-road penalty, you have to assume that the marginal W/kg is 0, i.e. that you don't lose any power by losing weight. Good luck with that.

 

[saunaking]

Don't know if trolling or whatever but careful examination show that they look pretty similar except for Vingegaard's hunchback.

i dunno, JV looks way more stretched out in the arms

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

i dunno, JV looks way more stretched out in the arms

That image of Remco is from late 2019. He doesn't have his custom aerobars yet, which he got before Algarve 2020, and he's wearing his ECC jersey. So it's a pointless comparison. He weighed roughly the same, but was more chubby and less muscular. His position on the bike was also different. After his ECC title, they changed his position at least twice.

 

[Riek s]

Well QS did what was expected, a good time. Pity JV was that much stronger than the others and he alreayd has a deficit of 14seconds to Roglic. But he has 15+ seconds on almeida and closer to 30seconds on Hindley and co. So he is off for a good start.

Next up don't fall in the netherlands...

 

[Angelo1985]

Well QS did what was expected, a good time. Pity JV was that much stronger than the others and he alreayd has a deficit of 14seconds to Roglic. But he has 15+ seconds on almeida and closer to 30seconds on Hindley and co. So he is off for a good start.

Next up don't fall in the netherlands...

There is not a lot of wind to be expected, so shouldnt be to dangerous.

 

[Andre]

I was expecting QS to win this stage...but it's not that bad I guess

 

[Mayomaniac]

Ok, but this was during Valencia, he has lost 3.5kg since.

Dude, that's clearly Bananito and not Remco!

 

[Red Rick]

I was worried there wouldn't be anything to overreact to in his GT comeback first stage.

But just look at this. Throat sock and definitely no bib length violation

 

[Lequack]

Remco looks huge, in a good way.

 

[Netserk]

Remco looks huge, in a good way.

Huge like Armstrong in Atlanta?

 

[Lequack]

I don't know of that reference. But his legs and even arms look big, unlike some other scrawny riders who look like they could hardly do a pushup.

 

[Netserk]

I don't know of that reference. But his legs and even arms look big, unlike some other scrawny riders who look like they could hardly do a pushup.

 

[Big Doopie]

I don't know of that reference. But his legs and even arms look big, unlike some other scrawny riders who look like they could hardly do a pushup.

he looks like the greatest and most influential cyclist of all time: Greg Lemond.

me. like.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nice performance today and two things i noticed.

He was dropping (not distancing) his team while Roglič was pushing Gesink. And second he had something wrapped around his neck that likely prevented breathing.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Lol, is Armstrong 80kg in that picture? Im pretty sure his racing weight 99-05 was something like 68-71.

 

[veganrob]

In the early 90's Lance looked like a linebacker.

 

[Netserk]

Lol, is Armstrong 80kg in that picture? Im pretty sure his racing weight 99-05 was something like 68-71.

I'd think he was in the 72-75 range. Hmm, probably close to 75.