Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

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A little of my normal stupid snark, but seriously I think that the sudden explosion of poor judgment from Camp Remco is uncalled for.. Reminds of father Ball ruining NBA basketball careers of his kids by creating a weird love triangle between the athlete, organization and some full of themselves parent.
Remco is on top of the world, literally and now is the time he needs direction and grounding.. History says that when you give young dudes unlimited power, pocket full of money, sense of invincibility and weak social circle you have problems.. Maybe Tom Boonen can swing by for a coffee or a tasty kreik or goooooze and tell Remco some of the trouble you can get into when you actually believe you are king..
Up until now I have always been impressed by his humility and composure.. Letting his legs do the talking. I think any passive aggressive team ownership manipulation through media is going to be a distraction, disadvantage and disaster for Quickstep..the team he has a contract with..
Remco surely needs career direction from senior experienced people. In comparison to the likes of Van Aert and Van der Poel - consummate professionals down to the minute details - Remco stands out very unfavorably. Most likely worse than what’s actually true.
 
Remco surely needs career direction from senior experienced people. In comparison to the likes of Van Aert and Van der Poel - consummate professionals down to the minute details - Remco stands out very unfavorably. Most likely worse than what’s actually true.
Van der poel is a bad example for this since he does his own thing. Its like now that he has attacked how best to support him and what are the best options.
 
Remco surely needs career direction from senior experienced people. In comparison to the likes of Van Aert and Van der Poel - consummate professionals down to the minute details - Remco stands out very unfavorably. Most likely worse than what’s actually true.
Where on earth do you get this nonsense from? If anything, Patrick has said how impressive Remco's work ethic is, quasi maniacal.
 
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Remco surely needs career direction from senior experienced people. In comparison to the likes of Van Aert and Van der Poel - consummate professionals down to the minute details - Remco stands out very unfavorably. Most likely worse than what’s actually true.
If there is one guy who knows what he wants, who understands what he needs to do so and has the dedication and focus to go after everything to reach his goal then it is Remco. He absorbs knowledge from experienced people but he definitely sets his own direction.
 
I have just finishing watching the interview now. It was really good and it puts some things into perspective like that Giro 2021 when he and the team made the mistake of thinking that he had enough base to win the race just because he had good numbers in training and then he actually wanted to let Almeida do his own race with opposes the villain narrative that some have created around Remco and it also shows that he learns from mistakes.

Ultimately we can't forget that Remco is the only rider to have ever won a Grand Tour, a monument and both the WCRR and WCTT and at the age of 23 with his talent and dedication after having already come back from a serious injury, I think he has everything to become one of the best riders ever and not just one of the best of the current generation.

Really looking forward to what he can do in Flanders too.
 
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A lot of harsh, yet interesting comments to the latest CN Remco article about "normally" staying with SQS. The general tenor is that Remco won't be able to beat Jonas or Tadej at the Tour, so why invest in a losing proposition, when you sacrifice the tried and true Belgian-style classics dominance and GT stage success? Thus let him go. Well his performance at this Vuelta could give some indication of his likelyhood (or not) of ever challenging for yellow. However, with that attitude it's better he leave. Soudal must have data that suggests or not if Remco might possibly compete with them. Perhaps Patrick is willfully hedging his bets to fetch the highest buy-out price to sell off a liability he no longer believes in, otherwise he would be offering top salaries to acquiring premium domestiques to support the new objective. Yet thus far an aged Landa is all he has come up with, which frankly seems little convincing. On the other hand, with MVDP, Pogacar, Van Aert on other teams, isn't it a bit late to hope to recover that classics edge? It's like a trap. Either Remco pulls through or you are f-ed.
Is GC really worth not pursuing if a team has arguably the best in the world behind Pogacar and Vingegaard, on par with Roglic? Or is it only not worth pursuing since QS is such a traditionally strong classics team?
 
Remco surely needs career direction from senior experienced people. In comparison to the likes of Van Aert and Van der Poel - consummate professionals down to the minute details - Remco stands out very unfavorably. Most likely worse than what’s actually true.

From 2022 to now he pretty much hit every target he aimed for except for the 2023 Giro . And the parts of Giro that he was able to do showed that he was prepared well enough.
 
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Is GC really worth not pursuing if a team has arguably the best in the world behind Pogacar and Vingegaard, on par with Roglic? Or is it only not worth pursuing since QS is such a traditionally strong classics team?
In today's cycling, I guess that depends on the numbers Soudal has in hand and what they estimate Vingegaard and Pogacar have to work with. Mine simply was taking note of what others are saying, who seem to be Soudal fans, without, however, believing Remco has a shot at winning the Tour against those two. Given that position, I must admit raising the issue of is it worth investing in such a radical conversion, if their dauphine does not have the stuff to win the Tour under these circumstances, becomes a legitimate question/objection. That's because, yes, to answer your second question, the Belgian squad established a brand of being the best team in cycling when it came down to the beloved classics and wracking up single wins throughout the season as the famous "wolf-pack". So to give that up and bet on the "wrong horse", if such were the case, naturally would be foolish.

Now one can dispute their premise, namely that a categorical lack of faith in Remco's ability to achieve the biggest win in the sport and his greatest triumph is misplaced, given his talent and will to succeed; but not the logic behind it, considering the apparently unreachable climbing level of in particular Vingegaard. In any case, it's risky business. The problem, as everybody knows, is that, unfortunately for Soudal, Remco, who clearly is a generational talent, happened to arrive at a time when two (as of yet) unforeseen monsters came quickly into the limelight. In 2018 folks, and not just a few, were predicting the kid would be the next Merckx; while nobody could have anticipated just how bright the rising stars of first Pogacar and now especially Vingegaard would soon shine in the heavens, with performances already glowing among the pantheon of the sport. It's crazy. So much massive talent in the span of a few years arriving so suddenly (to say nothing of what other mutants might loom over the horizon). But that's sport.

Personally I think Soudal should go all in to try and help Evenepoel win the Grand Bouclé. Belgium has been waiting too long for a Tour winner and if anybody is their golden boy to bet on, it's Remco. But admittedly, with those two, it's going to be hard and both Evenepoel and the team climbing-wise must get themselves to the next level for any hope of achieving this biggest goal. For this reason, I honestly remain perplexed in Patrick's only reinforcement thus far being a, what, 34 year-old Landis? None of the younger talents (especially from Ineos) were persuaded to join Soudal. How come? Was Patrick too stingy with the offers? If so, now isn't the time for stingyness. Is it because they know Remco isn't staying at Soudal, but moving to Ineos, and so jumped ship to cash in on the most lucrative deals? Is all of Patrick's taking umbrage with Ineos and Remco's father, in reality just a smokescreen to save face and not have to invest heavily on domestiques for a rider he no longer believes in to win the Tour (or knows is going to leave)?

Many unanswered questions, while the Vuelta for Remco now becomes a huge test to see what he is capable of against rivals who arguably will be more like the calibre he will need to beat at the Tour next year.
 
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That's different. One is something that already happened and so cannot be changed and the other is an outcome in the future that despite being almost sure, is always subject to change due to some unforeseeable factor, whatever odds it may have.

I'm not dutch but I also have the tendency to say it like that whenever talking about something in the future. Not because I have doubts about the occurrence of some specific thing, but because something beyond my control can happen that invalidates my previous assertion.
So where he's going to race next year isn't already decided then which again is my point when I replied 'it isn't a straight answer'. If he wasn't going anywhere it would be a straight yes imo.
 
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So where he's going to race next year isn't already decided then which again is my point when I replied 'it isn't a straight answer'. If he wasn't going anywhere it would be a straight yes imo.

I also have a contract with my workplace for undefinitive time and I'm not looking elsewhere to work atm, but if someone asks me if I will be working there next year with absolute certainty, I would answer "In principle, yes" and not an absolute yes.
 
For this reason, I honestly remain perplexed in Patrick's only reinforcement thus far being a, what, 34 year-old Landis?

It's a pity he couldn't get a 30-year-old Landis

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I think that either:
(A) Nothing was meant and it's just a turn of phrase.
(B) Something was meant but it's not that he doubts he'll still be at QST. It's meant to express that there is work to be done and he was given certain guarantees.
(C) He phrased it like that so that the video would get more views and engagement.

If you're really in negotiations with Ineos and might go there this year you just dodge that question because you're going to end up looking like a liar even if you added a 'normally'.

Saying "absolutely yes" wouldn't gain him much and the difference between "yes" and "normally yes" is minor in my opinion.

Good to see we don't need Logic to meander about this endlessly lmao.
 
I think that either:
(A) Nothing was meant and it's just a turn of phrase.
(B) Something was meant but it's not that he doubts he'll still be at QST. It's meant to express that there is work to be done and he was given certain guarantees.
(C) He phrased it like that so that the video would get more views and engagement.

If you're really in negotiations with Ineos and might go there this year you just dodge that question because you're going to end up looking like a liar even if you added a 'normally'.

Saying "absolutely yes" wouldn't gain him much and the difference between "yes" and "normally yes" is minor in my opinion.

Good to see we don't need Logic to meander about this endlessly lmao.
Not in the context of the suspicions and innuendos going on right now, does "normally" resonate categorically affirmative. He leaves the door open to interpretation, while playing up the fact that Soudal has much to improve if he fights for the Tour with them. One could just as well conclude that, in preparation for an exit, Remco makes it known that the gaurantees have not been met and so he is completely justified in seeking others, which is just as "normal"-ly.
 
It would appear that Ineos is doing SOMETHING. by letting go of several riders while suddenly halting on bringing in those that had been planned.

They may not have the space to take on all of QS but they could have the room for Remco and the teammates he wants to bring over.

A little like Contador reported. Though I really hesitate to take him as a source.

Maybe “normally, yes” is also semantics if QS is being bought by Ineos. He will still be with QS only QS has been bought.
 
The only thing he really cares about now is the TdF. That's his focus for 2024. He wants to maximize his chances so SQS better does that too or they will lose him.
I must disagree with you Peterfin. Right now is all for La Vuelta. The Tour of 2024 will come when it comes....and Remco will be ready for that as well; he doesn't joke around. But right now all eyes on La Vuelta.