Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[AmRacer]

AmRacer, no disrespect or anything, but there is an edit function so you can add thoughts to a previous post, without having to post 3 different replies to one and the same post.

You don't say!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

You don't say!

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[wheresmybrakes]

AmRacer, no disrespect or anything, but there is an edit function so you can add thoughts to a previous post, without having to post 3 different replies to one and the same post.


Evenepoel lost a lot more potential big wins with his crash though. And the main point is not so much not being able to race and not being able to win, but the time and progression wasted. Evenepoel got thrown back in his development with his crash. Pogi's crash in Liège did not throw his development off track one bit.

I thought Remo got thrown back in his development due to rushing back from the injury and going for the Giro, when he wasn't ready. Could that have been his team or himself for being too eager to get back.

 

[Andre]

I thought Remo got thrown back in his development due to rushing back from the injury and going for the Giro, when he wasn't ready. Could that have been his team or himself for being too eager to get back.

both

 

[Extinction]

The hype is gone. I'm a huge fan of him but I can be sure that he won't live to the expectations of being the next big thing in cycling. He "should" be what Pogacar is.

In fairness, he had the major setback of the Lombardia crash and COVID and now this. Plus he's on the wrong team to do what Pog and Vingo have done.

 

[Red Rick]

Ignoring hard work, I dont really think signing for and staying with SQS has paid off

 

[Froome]

In fairness, he had the major setback of the Lombardia crash and COVID and now this. Plus he's on the wrong team to do what Pog and Vingo have done.

I disagree on that. Quick step is still a very good team, including the staff and performance team.

I loved the progress Almeida was taking on Quick step.
Landa is doing great there.

 

[Salvarani]

I thought Remo got thrown back in his development due to rushing back from the injury and going for the Giro, when he wasn't ready. Could that have been his team or himself for being too eager to get back.

In ten years they gonna say it affected his whole career, when there is no point comparing the two.

 

[Netserk]

Ignoring hard work, I dont really think signing for and staying with SQS has paid off

More or less what he signed up for.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I disagree on that. Quick step is still a very good team, including the staff and performance team.

I loved the progress Almeida was taking on Quick step.
Landa is doing great there.

Landa is a big boy who has been on many big teams and knows what works for him and what not.
SQS is still obviously better than many other teams, but when it comes to training and nutrition, i feel even Lotto has overtaken them. They are nowhere near Visma or UAE.

I thought Remo got thrown back in his development due to rushing back from the injury and going for the Giro, when he wasn't ready. Could that have been his team or himself for being too eager to get back.

And you think the actual injury had nothing to do with it?

 

[Froome]

Landa is a big boy who has been on many big teams and knows what works for him and what not.
SQS is still obviously better than many other teams, but when it comes to training and nutrition, i feel even Lotto has overtaken them. They are nowhere near Visma or UAE.

It can be true, but i bet Remco is individually treated in a special way by the team, and certainly they put a lot of resources to not miss anything to him, in all the areas.

In terms of teams, in general, it can be true Visma and UAE are more advanced, but c'mon, lotto hell no.

Quick step is just behind emirates, visma and probably Bora.

 

[Extinction]

I disagree on that. Quick step is still a very good team, including the staff and performance team.

I loved the progress Almeida was taking on Quick step.
Landa is doing great there.

They made huge mistakes in planning the Vuelta last year and the Giro 2021. Plus, I'm not certain they know how to get his weight right to win GTs.

 

[Froome]

The made huge mistakes in planning the Vuelta last year and the Giro 2021. Plus, I'm not certain they know how to get his weight right to win GTs.

Certainly they did some mistakes, but i think every team sometimes do that.
Visma also did some mistakes with Roglic, after Vuelta 2022.

I think Quick step did a tremendous job in developing Remco since 2017/2018. He won a lot, and he won a Grand Tour.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

but c'mon, lotto hell no.

I'm afraid hell yes. I didn't mention Lotto at random.

 

[Extinction]

Certainly they did some mistakes, but i think every team sometimes do that.
Visma also did some mistakes with Roglic, after Vuelta 2022.

I think Quick step did a tremendous job in developing Remco since 2017/2018. He won a lot, and he won a Grand Tour.

He won the Vuelta with merit, but under favorable circumstances. The Tour against Vingegaard and Pogacar is another universe and the team's managing him at GTs in general, leaves me with doubts until proven otherwise.

 

[Froome]

He won the Vuelta with merit, but under favorable circumstances. The Tour against Vingegaard and Pogacar is another universe and the team's managing him at GTs in general, leaves me with doubts until proven otherwise.

After the Tour 2024, a lot of that doubts can have a answer.

 

[AmRacer]

After the Tour 2024, a lot of that doubts can have a answer.

With or without....Jonas.

 

[Berniece]

Mate, i didn't understand this.

There’s this running joke that Pogacar got a lot of his big wins due to being lucky. You can ask @Red Rick for a list.

 

[Extinction]

After the Tour 2024, a lot of that doubts can have a answer.

Let's hope so. It would be nice to see him back on the trajectory 2019 promised, when Landa said we'd better win now before the kid wins everything. But then Pog and Vingo took off and now Remco seems to be a few steps behind.

 

[Froome]

Let's hope so. It would be nice to see him back on the trajectory 2019 promised, when Landa said we'd better win now before the kid wins everything. But then Pog and Vingo took of and now Remco seems to be a few steps behind.

I expect Remco to be stronger than Pog and Vingo in the future in some areas, and i expect Pog and Vingo to continue to be better than Remco in other areas. There will be no supremacy by one rider in the future, in my opinion.

 

[Extinction]

I expect Remco to be stronger than Pog and Vingo in the future in some areas, and i expect Pog and Vingo to continue to be better than Remco in other areas. There will be no supremacy by one rider in the future, in my opinion.

Remco is the superior TTer on specialist courses, the only one of the three who could have beaten Ganna today, for example. Vingo is the best on the long cols, Pog at everything else. It will thus be hard for Remco to win the Tour. But he's had major setbacks, so he could yet prove me wrong.

 

[Monte Serra]

Remco should have done the Tour last year. If only to honour the rainbow jersey. I still expect him to podium the race this year, with at least a stage win or two, and grab a gold medal in Paris. We got a Remco vs. Roglič thread, but isn't the real rivalry Evenepoel vs. Van Aert? The road race should deliver fireworks. I was on the Wout bandwagon, but Remco has slowly but surely won me over.

 

[houtdffan]

looks like Remco will get his binkie, Alap, for the tour

Remco rides far more confidently when he has Alap with him in the race

 

[Oldermanish]

AmRacer, no disrespect or anything, but there is an edit function so you can add thoughts to a previous post, without having to post 3 different replies to one and the same post.


Evenepoel lost a lot more potential big wins with his crash though. And the main point is not so much not being able to race and not being able to win, but the time and progression wasted. Evenepoel got thrown back in his development with his crash. Pogi's crash in Liège did not throw his development off track one bit.

Except that Tour he lost to the Danish Kid. Now that Jonas is in the same situation it may repay both Pogi and Remco with an easier playing field?

 

[peterfin]

Except that Tour he lost to the Danish Kid. Now that Jonas is in the same situation it may repay both Pogi and Remco with an easier playing field?

With peak Pogi in the Giro and peak Jonas probably back as early as the Vuelta, the playing field is a bit more open this Tour and a real big 4 battle might actually happen. However, the main benefit of not being challenged by peak Jonas may be for Pogi and his team. It maybe due to recensy bias but I can't see how it will be easier for Remco or Roglic this Tour if you see Pogi being better than ever?