The Sidebar Thread

[Netserk]

Going around calling someone a liar without backing up would be bad enough, but when it is then shown that you got it wrong and continue, I think thats pretty poor form.
You need to get over your inferiority complex.

Like RR did to BroDeal?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Like RR did to BroDeal?

RR did indeed.

 

[the sceptic]

I doubt RR was reporting as they were engaging with Bro.
But if they did, they were certainly entitled to - remember the little experiment I did on you? Ya, you didn't like it - and that was subtle.

Going around calling someone a liar without backing up would be bad enough, but when it is then shown that you got it wrong and continue, I think thats pretty poor form.
You need to get over your inferiority complex.

oh please. What BroDeal did was no worse than what he was getting in return. Either ban them both or in an ideal world, neither.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

oh please. What BroDeal did was no worse than what he was getting in return. Either ban them both or in an ideal world, neither.

Bro started it.
And it was Bro's mistake - he was not following the discussion.

So, its ok to just call someone a liar without backing it up and then if the other person points out that you are actually the one lying, both should get the same punishment?

 

[Netserk]

oh please. What BroDeal did was no worse than what he was getting in return. Either ban them both or in an ideal world, neither.

This I agree with. Especially the last bit.

 

[the sceptic]

Bro started it.
And it was Bro's mistake - he was not following the discussion.

So, its ok to just call someone a liar without backing it up and then if the other person points out that you are actually the one lying, both should get the same punishment?

where does calling someone a liar rank on the insult scale compared to say,
"clogging the toilet" or referring to someone as "herpes"?

What I dont like is that RR can do his holier than thou ****** act against anyone that doesnt buy into his arguments, but the moment someone gives it back they get banned. Is that right?

 

[Race Radio]

oh please. What BroDeal did was no worse than what he was getting in return.

Nonsense. Comparing me to Al Sharpton, saying I work for Fabiani, Public Strategies, over and over saying I was lying when I clearly was not. Calling me a "Giant Colon". The worst I wrote was that he should get his talking points from Tim Herman. This came after days of his Fabiani/Public Strategies/Lying nonsense and BPC saying Armstrong supported his claims of a secret source and smearing of LeMond/Betsy

 

[Dr. Maserati]

where does calling someone a liar rank on the insult scale compared to say,
"clogging the toilet" or referring to someone as "herpes"?

IMO much much higher, in fact its hor's categorie stuff.

This is a forum, most are anonymous so the only ways of reading a post is through the information provided.
We all judge that differently, but people will earn a reputation on it - people can defend what they post, or their view - but you cannot defend yourself when someone lies and does not back up their claim.

What I dont like is that RR can do his holier than thou ****** act against anyone that doesnt buy into his arguments, but the moment someone gives it back they get banned. Is that right?

Well, that's because you have a fixation with RR.

Where is he 'holier than thou'?
In the initial Detroit piece, RR & Red did not agree on the slant of the piece. There was nothing more to it. And I would agree with Red.

 

[Race Radio]

where does calling someone a liar rank on the insult scale compared to say,
"clogging the toilet" or referring to someone as "herpes"?

Where did I call BroDeal Herpes? It is clear to most here what Bro's goal was, to clog any discussion with nonsense. Nothing wrong with pointing this out.

Please stop inventing things.

 

[Netserk]

Where did I call BroDeal Herpes? It is clear to most here what Bro's goal was, to clog any discussion with nonsense. Nothing wrong with pointing this out.

Please stop inventing things.

By the same logic there's nothing wrong with calling someone a liar.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

By the same logic there's nothing wrong with calling someone a liar.

As long as they are indeed lying. Hence the problem.

 

[Netserk]

As long as they are indeed lying. Hence the problem.

Do you think it'd be fair to call RR a liar over this?

It is clear to most here what Bro's goal was

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Do you think it'd be fair to call RR a liar over this?

No.
And indeed that gets us back to Bro & RRs positions.

At first I assumed it was a minor difference of opinion between them and it would be left at that. Bro had misread the discussion - no biggie.

But Bro went on about it, and was suggesting that it was a deliberate ploy by RR. Bro screwed up, while it may not have been intentional they should have swallowed their pride and admit the error.

 

[kingjr]

Do you think it'd be fair to call RR a liar over this?

Looking at BroDeal's posts about how this forum is dying combined with the posts of peole who were surprised about his recent posts and wondered whether his account has been hacked leads to the conclusion that he just wanted to stir sh*t up.

 

[the sceptic]

IMO much much higher, in fact its hor's categorie stuff.

This is a forum, most are anonymous so the only ways of reading a post is through the information provided.
We all judge that differently, but people will earn a reputation on it - people can defend what they post, or their view - but you cannot defend yourself when someone lies and does not back up their claim.



Well, that's because you have a fixation with RR.

Where is he 'holier than thou'?
In the initial Detroit piece, RR & Red did not agree on the slant of the piece. There was nothing more to it. And I would agree with Red.

has there been any noticable fluctuations in RRs twitter follower count after this grave unjustice. Glad hes got you to do damage control before the situation gets out of hand.

To me its pretty simple. BroDeal and Race Radio have different interpretations on what the truth is. They both call each other liars, and BroDeal gets banned.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

has there been any noticable fluctuations in RRs twitter follower count after this grave unjustice. Glad hes got you to do damage control before the situation gets out of hand.

I dont know - you are the one obsessed with RR, you tell me.

And because you keep bringing it up - what exactly is your problem with RR?

To me its pretty simple. BroDeal and Race Radio have different interpretations on what the truth is. They both call each other liars, and BroDeal gets banned.

Nope.
Thats what RR & RedFlanders had, a different interpretation, neither called the other a liar.

Then someone else introduced the movie - Bro appeared not to have see the post or the movie, missing its relevance. And then accused RR of making stuff up -that was false.

 

[the sceptic]

Looking at BroDeal's posts about how this forum is dying combined with the posts of peole who were surprised about his recent posts and wondered whether his account has been hacked leads to the conclusion that he just wanted to stir sh*t up.

its a pretty cheap insult actually. But dont expect the mods to care about this or other attacks directed towards BroDeal in the armstrong thread.

 

[the sceptic]

I dont know - you are the one obsessed with RR, you tell me.

And because you keep bringing it up - what exactly is your problem with RR?


Nope.
Thats what RR & RedFlanders had, a different interpretation, neither called the other a liar.

Then someone else introduced the movie - Bro appeared not to have see the post or the movie, missing its relevance. And then accused RR of making stuff up -that was false.

My problem is more with the double standards of the mods. But now that Hog and BroDeal have been safely removed you can pat yourselves on the back and go back to the circle jerk.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

My problem is more with the double standards of the mods. But now that Hog and BroDeal have been safely removed you can pat yourselves on the back and go back to the circle jerk.

Nice.
Can you point to this 'double standard'?
And if that were the case, how is it that you are fixated on RR, not the mods?

Unlike you, I welcome all posters (even BPC) as they usually have something interesting to say. But when they start deliberately making stuff up it needs to be addressed, in particular if its personal.
Bro actually had plenty of opportunities to either accept they made a mistake or just let it quietly drop - but they continued, including bringing it in to other irrelevant discussions.

 

[Race Radio]

the double standard is that Hog and BroDeal get banned, while RR gets nothing for doing the same thing.

this would be true.....if we were doing the same thing.

I doubt we will ever agree on this. You should really take it up with the mods if you feel so strongly. Report my posts if you feel I am doing something wrong.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

the double standard is that Hog and BroDeal get banned, while RR gets nothing for doing the same thing.

I don't remember RR following Hog or Bro around the site deliberately distorting what they said.

By all means - if you have examples of "doing the same thing", show them.

 

[the sceptic]

I don't remember RR following Hog or Bro around the site deliberately distorting what they said.

By all means - if you have examples of "doing the same thing", show them.

I havent got an intricate memory of every single post in the forums history like you do, but im sure we can agree that RR wont shy away from breaking forum rules himself, without getting banned for months for it.

 

[mewmewmew13]

My problem is more with the double standards of the mods. But now that Hog and BroDeal have been safely removed you can pat yourselves on the back and go back to the circle jerk.

Why don't you go be quiet somewhere?
You've ranted on and on about how RR is leader of a groupthink etc etc and how unfair the mods are…

There is no double standard..RR did not come into this forum and start picking at and trolling BroDeal in the first place..Bro came here with an attitude and a new slant on life and kept niggling and daring RR to back up his 'lies' ..which he continued to try to do.

I do also remember a few weeks ago when BOTH hoggie and RaceR got bans..EQUAL bans.


Now go find someone else to whine about.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I havent got an intricate memory of every single post in the forums history like you do, but im sure we can agree that RR wont shy away from breaking forum rules himself, without getting banned for months for it.

So, you have no examples - yet want the same bans for people.

So what rules were broken?
And you have broken rules - why have you never been banned?

This is pretty simple - Bro got it wrong, went at RR hard and then did not stop.
For me, he should have stopped earlier. Perhaps he was warned and ignored it, I don't know and don't care to know, but as he was persisting a ban was inevitable.

 

[the sceptic]

So, you have no examples - yet want the same bans for people.

So what rules were broken?
And you have broken rules - why have you never been banned?

This is pretty simple - Bro got it wrong, went at RR hard and then did not stop.
For me, he should have stopped earlier. Perhaps he was warned and ignored it, I don't know and don't care to know, but as he was persisting a ban was inevitable.

Bro went at the Armstrong groupthink, or rather its god, RR. The groupthink got irritated and responded with their own attacks and insults. Eventually a mod drives by and takes out BroDeal to restore peace and order, and now everyone can go back to calmly obsessing over how evil Armstrong is.

I dont want the same bans, I want no bans. But if the mods are going to ban people for things like this, then they should ban everyone that breaks the rules.