There is no way Cancellera is Clean!

[Ferminal]

Clearly, there was to much pressure on Fab. Juice works adversely if you're under too much pressure

not to give myself credit, but I do remember predicting the rise of Saxo-bank riders this season. At the moment, nobody knows how to prepare his riders better than Riis. And don't expect any positives from Saxo-bank this year. These guys are having masking agents for breakfast.

Or steak

 

[greatking88]

Poor Cancellara's motor wasn't working today

 

[Maxiton]

I'm probably going to regret this, but as long as we're indulging in idle, pointless speculation, let's play a little game. Let's assume Cancellara threw today's race; that is, could have won but chose to let someone else win instead (while trying to make it look good). IF Cancellara threw the race, what was his motivation?

I can think of two possible reasons. 1) If he'd continue to dominate as he did last year, and again this year at E3, he'd have taken too much heat from the peloton and everyone else concerned for too blatantly doping; or, 2) Not beating a Saxo rider if one was in contention was part of the agreement he made with Riis to get out of his contract.

Does anyone else think it possible that Cancellara threw the race?

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Poor Cancellara's motor wasn't working today

I think the batteries ran out. Maybe someone forgot to charge them up last week.

 

[Anonymous]

If Fabian is clean Im the pope.

Not only did he have the strength to ride away from ease, but when they caught him he had the strength to attack again, and then the strength to finish 3rd.

Im chuffed he got beat.

 

[Granville57]

Not a doping issue but...
Why isn't more being made of Fabian nearly driving Chavanel into the barriers in the final few meters?

 

[The Hitch]

Surprising to see so much Cancellara hate.

Just because people fell for the idea that Canc was superman.

As if he won E3 with ease, as if he didnt go through a lot of pain and push his body to the limit to get that victory. As if he went for the 40k itt as if he went on a stroll.

Cancellara is someone with balls who shows spectacular feats.

He was by far the strongest today and hell hath no fury like SPartacus next week.

But about the doping. I know the chances are Cancellara is a doper, I believe he is.

But like with Roessler and Kwiatkowski last week, people, claim they know (without evidence) for 100% that those riders are doping. ANd thats fine, i myself believe all top riders dope. But they act as if the object of their hate was the ONLY person doping.

Because only Roessler and Kwiatkowski took drugs at 3 days of De Panne, and the good guys werent doping, and so you have a classic good vs bad narration which these posters set up in their minds.

So of those accusing Cancellara of doping I ask, either

A prove Cancellara is doping

OR

B If you want to take the Cancellara must be doping because hes a top cyclist angle, then prove that Gilbert ISNT doping. that Boonen ISNT doping. That Pozzato ISNT doping That Ballan ISNT doping. . All these guys with World CHampionshonships, 4 out of the 5 monuments and stages in every gt between them, were in that race too and were up there.

Why is only Cancellara doping?

 

[hrotha]

I don't think anyone's saying Cancellara is the only one, but people suspect he's a protected rider.

 

[Maxiton]

I still wanna know if anyone thinks he threw the race.

 

[theswordsman]

Not a doping issue but...
Why isn't more being made of Fabian nearly driving Chavanel into the barriers in the final few meters?

I haven't seen the replay, but I thought it was Nuyens ahead of Chavanel that bounced to the side a bit with Chavanel on his right rear trying to get by. Spartacus was toward the middle.

 

[mewmewmew13]

For gosh sakes, at some point enjoy the racing and stop accusing every other rider. Either they all, some or whatever.....there has been some excellent racing out there and some guys turning themselves inside out! Today's was a fantastic race....looking forward to next weekend!

 

[Granville57]

I haven't seen the replay, but I thought it was Nuyens ahead of Chavanel that bounced to the side a bit with Chavanel on his right rear trying to get by. Spartacus was toward the middle.

Here's a great look:
The final kilometre
Plus the in-car Saxo reaction!

 

[Maxiton]

To me it looked like Cancellara leading Nuyens out, then cutting off Chavanel. I mean, if you look at the replay, it sure seems that way.

 

[greatking88]

I think the batteries ran out. Maybe someone forgot to charge them up last week.

Aye or maybe somebody put in AAA batteries instead of AA..caused a bit of a malfunction

 

[Martin318is]

Nope, just a group of tired guys dragging themselves to the line.

 

[Ferminal]

To me it looked like Cancellara leading Nuyens out, then cutting off Chavanel. I mean, if you look at the replay, it sure seems that way.

I'll play... the way he sat up with almost 100m to go looked like he had finished a lead out.

 

[M Sport]

I still wanna know if anyone thinks he threw the race.

Are you serious? I don't think he threw it and am surprised at the suggestion.

 

[danjo007]

at first i thought it was a tired drag to the finish, but watching again, i see it different.

FB starts the sprint, and has a good look at the other 2. fair enough.

he sprints (what looks to be a lead out for saxo), and even waves him by just before he sits up.

then looks again at sylvain, and starts to "sprint" again - after sitting up.... ???

then proceeds to "take" nuyens wheel also pushing sylvain over the road.


in any case i think he gifted the win to nuyens because he felt he couldnt win the sprint, and didnt want sylvain to win because he offered no help to FB on the break.
FB is a spiteful turd!

 

[Maxiton]

I'll play... the way he sat up with almost 100m to go looked like he had finished a lead out.

Exactly. It did look that way. And he cut off the pursuer to boot.

Are you serious? I don't think he threw it and am surprised at the suggestion.

So then we put you in the "no" category. Keep in mind his performances last year and at E3. If you want to watch it again and reconsider, feel free.

 

[Maxiton]

at first i thought it was a tired drag to the finish, but watching again, i see it different.

FB starts the sprint, and has a good look at the other 2. fair enough.

he sprints (what looks to be a lead out for saxo), and even waves him by just before he sits up.

then looks again at sylvain, and starts to "sprint" again - after sitting up.... ???

then proceeds to "take" nuyens wheel also pushing sylvain over the road.


in any case i think he gifted the win to nuyens because he felt he couldnt win the sprint, and didnt want sylvain to win because he offered no help to FB on the break.
FB is a spiteful turd!

That's probably a really good read.

 

[red_flanders]

at first i thought it was a tired drag to the finish, but watching again, i see it different.

FB starts the sprint, and has a good look at the other 2. fair enough.

he sprints (what looks to be a lead out for saxo), and even waves him by just before he sits up.

then looks again at sylvain, and starts to "sprint" again - after sitting up.... ???

then proceeds to "take" nuyens wheel also pushing sylvain over the road.


in any case i think he gifted the win to nuyens because he felt he couldnt win the sprint, and didnt want sylvain to win because he offered no help to FB on the break.
FB is a spiteful turd!

I saw them rounding the corner, then shortly after FC sees Boonen coming and starts the sprint. Seemed like a reaction, not a planned gift. Nuyens came around pretty quickly, FC saw he was beaten, then slacked off. Sees Chavanel coming around and tries to beat him, then pinches him into the barriers, neither working.

Don't see why he'd make a point of grabbing SC's hand at k 5 or so when SC started working, then making a point to gift the win to Nuyens. Why would he gift the win to Nuyens?

 

[M Sport]

So then we put you in the "no" category. Keep in mind his performances last year and at E3. If you want to watch it again and reconsider, feel free.

I watched the last km again. I am still in the 'no' category. In absolutely no way did Fabian either throw the race, or gift it to Nuyens.

 

[function]

He wins, he's doping. He loses, he's throwing the race. You guys just live for the idea of cheating.

 

[MacRoadie]

Don't see why he'd make a point of grabbing SC's hand at k 5 or so when SC started working, then making a point to gift the win to Nuyens. Why would he gift the win to Nuyens?

That's how I saw it too. The handshake was an acknowledgement that Chavanel couldn't work with him earlier as he had Boonen chasing (even though FC did ask several times likely with the hope that at some point Chavanel would be allowed to fly), and that now they would work together.

To gift the win to a man who had done absolutely nothing over a man who didn't work when race tactics dictated he couldn't, but did work when he could makes zero sense.

 

[usedtobefast]

I watched the last km again. I am still in the 'no' category. In absolutely no way did Fabian either throw the race, or gift it to Nuyens.

yeah, he was doing his best to win it. the others were strong too, and having to start the sprint early because Boonen was coming was his podium saving move.
if TB caught them, his sprint is usually pretty good, so Fabian knew go now,
or risk getting caught. he did what he had to do. 3rd is big respect for the ride
he put in,imo. he did not give an inch.