Yeah, I’ve been thinking the same. Give up the GC stuff as he’s never gonna win a GT and concentrate on stage hunting in Giro/Tour. Or give up road and concentrate on MTB/CX!
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Can we change the thread title to Billy Big Balls?
The guy has a big ego, that's evident. But he's a double Olympic gold medallist, double WC, won a couple of big Classics and a stage of the Tour. And that's not taking into account his stellar junior career. It kind of comes with the territory. All the big champs have big egos, but this current Ineos management just have no clue how to deal with his ego.
Yes, his past achievements are there for all to see. However, past form is just that past form. I suspect if we were to ask the senior management at INIOS, they would tell us Pidcock was hired to develop into a road race rider in the near future; yet, as far as I can see, he is not showing a great deal of improvement in that area.
Added to this, Pidcock is allegedly on a massive financial package. However, according to the cycling press (And yes, I appreciate that we have to take much of what is reported with a pinch of salt), he does seem to be making a lot of fuss about some of the team Snr management and is pointing the finger at some claiming that they do not know how to get the best out of him. In my humble opinion, this is never a sensible stance, especially considering that Sky won the TdF seven times in eight years with three different riders, at least one of which was said to be a "prickly customer". However, he still won, so they cannot be all that bad at motivating riders who want to win road races.
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I don't think the senior management running the team when they won 7 TdF titles are presently with the team. They clearly don't have a strong management person to call the shots.
Coach Kurt Bogaerts says nothing to see here ... (wonder if he's worried about his job! 
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True. As well, I don't know that senior management from that period - even if still at INEOS - would win now.
Based on interviews with riders who span the time period, I believe the top teams now - TVLB, UAE, especially - are much advanced from the Sky Boys. RBH seeks to join TVLB and UAE, and I suspect there are many teams of lesser budgets who are also competing with advanced training and technology of which I am unaware, where INEOS is perhaps disinvesting.
I think of the original staff, only Slarkey (fleet manager), Costa (head mechanic) and Steve Peters (psychiatrist) remain now. It's probably not that unusual in teams of this age for the turnover of staff, but having both Brailsford and Ellingworth move on around the same time is a big change, gonna take Allert a few years like it did Braislford & Ellingworth to win that first Tour imo. But as Tim Kerrison always said, you can have the best equiplment, best training, best nutrition, best sports science in the peloton, but without a Chris Froome you can't win and Ineos don't have a replacement for Chris Froome so they have to go back to basics with a young squad and try and develop one which is clearly what they're doing now.
I very much doubt that INEOS simply allowed all that knowledge to just walk out of the door, there will almost certainly be strategy, training, and health logs to refer to, especially for those races they won. They have some very good people even if some are being kept away from races to ensure certain riders can do their best but looking from the outside in, that seems to be a failing strategy. Since Dave B moved on control of riders ego's seems to have slipped.
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Not great from Pidcock airing his dirty laundry in public and not the first time he's done it. Best thing for both is he leaves. IMO He needs to concentrate on week long races.
Not great from Pidcock airing his dirty laundry in public and not the first time he's done it. Best thing for both is he leaves. IMO He needs to concentrate on week long races.
This is bizarre. I mean he came second in a very similar race just last week, and now they leave him out? I don't blame him for saying this actually as he has a right to be annoyed. This sounds like he is leaving INEOS and they are punishing him for it?
So who is coming to get him... buying him out won't be cheap.
Astana is probably already on their way to drop a sack full of gold at their doorstep but meeh Astana. Red Bull was interested but they are after someone else who is still under contract. Q36.5 was rumored but do they really have that money?
I think this is absolutely BS when your team just leaves you out a monument selection for absolutely 0 reason. They literally do not have anyone else who can get a result. And this is coming from someone who really doesn't like Pidcock (and someone who thought his previous criticism shouldve not been made public). Why should he stay quite when his team is obviously doing this out of spite?
Astana is probably already on their way to drop a sack full of gold at their doorstep but meeh Astana. Red Bull was interested but they are after someone else who is still under contract. Q36.5 was rumored but do they really have that money?
I think this is absolutely BS when your team just leaves you out a monument selection for absolutely 0 reason. They literally do not have anyone else who can get a result. And this is coming from someone who really doesn't like Pidcock (and someone who thought his previous criticism shouldve not been made public). Why should he stay quite when his team is obviously doing this out of spite?
Posted this in Lombardy thread
he's raced in a number of events since and even since the q36 rumour came out. Seems pretty petty and unprofesional of the team to do it now in what will likely be his last race for the team. It's not like they need a result is it? rumour he's been fired, but agent says no reason given for deselection. The final nail in the coffin for an awful team.
I don't see how you see how you blame the rider for this once the team have been announced. I'd be doing the same tbh. The team clearly should have selected him, and are allowing personal feelings to get in the way of professionalism when picking a team, especially when you look at the 8 riders selected.
he's raced in a number of events since and even since the q36 rumour came out. Seems pretty petty and unprofesional of the team to do it now in what will likely be his last race for the team. It's not like they need a result is it? rumour he's been fired, but agent says no reason given for deselection. The final nail in the coffin for an awful team.
I don't see how you see how you blame the rider for this once the team have been announced. I'd be doing the same tbh. The team clearly should have selected him, and are allowing personal feelings to get in the way of professionalism when picking a team, especially when you look at the 8 riders selected.
But why would Pidcock go there if one of his main concerns is him not being able to do his thing in GTs, Q36.5 doesn't even ride a GT and won't anytime soon I think.
Also maybe Scotts wants to do that but the team itself is apparently struggling financially.
wow, are they?? but Glasenberg (Q36.5 brand owner) has just bought Pinarello, yes the whole Pinarello Bikes.
I thought they'd swap, Scott to Ineos and Pinarello to Q36.5
Scott won't have DSM in 2025 (they will ride Lapierre)
I've got no sources at all, but Benson is reporting it as a contract termination. If that's right, any expense for the team is simply adding salary. And all INEOS gets from this is reduction in salary expenditure with a significantly weaker squad.
Benson also suggests that the "rationale" ("one possible explanation") for not letting him ride is to avoid a possible injury that could jeopardize the transfer away.
Have been a big fan of Pidcock since his early days in CX, but have lost faith this season. Not in his abilities as a rider, but his character. Ineos have completely indulged his MTB/CX schedules, while getting very little in return on the road. This year, he hasn't had a decent day since June, until Emillia.
If he just concentrated on road/CX, like MVDP, then he'd be much more successful and productive for the team. There are undoubtably issues at Ineos, but pandering to Pidcock isn't one of them. I wish him well, and also team without the burden of his salary.
If he just concentrated on road/CX, like MVDP, then he'd be much more successful and productive for the team. There are undoubtably issues at Ineos, but pandering to Pidcock isn't one of them. I wish him well, and also team without the burden of his salary.
Pidcock is NOT a well liked character in the peloton. To the point where he's probably going to need to take a Pro Conti contract
Q36.5 may feel that Pidcock plus another decent signing will get them an invite?
To which GT, for Tour you have Tudor, Total and UNO X already for 2 spots, for the Giro you have basically 3 teams that are guaranteed the 3 spots that are free (Tudor, Bardiani and Polti) and for the Vuelta you have multiple Spanish Pro Conti teams for only 2 spots (Caja and Burgos their turn next year). Unless either Israel or Lotto skips the Vuelta (chances are really small) there's no extra spot. So the chances Q36.5 gets a WC to any GT are almost 0, even with Pidcock and maybe rumored Kwiatkowski (option according to Gazzetta).
Apart from Q36.5, Red Bull (this is known, but they are trying to get Van Gils for that position), Astana (they will definitely be interested but does he wants to go there) and even Visma are interested according to Benson. Of course teams are interested in Pidcock, really doesn't matter that he's maybe somewhat disliked. You think teams like Astana care lmao.
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Ive heard that aswell from more than one source.
Im very positive at this point that Pidcock will be in Q36.5 come next year.
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