Tour de France 2016 route prediction

[MikeTichondrius]

Looking at the full package of Pyreenean stages they look relatively standard though. Lac de Payolle in particular has me wondering. The rumoured start near Toulouse as per Velowire gives me about 120km distance through Aspin. If they go through Bigorre and do the so-called uphill drag that's about 15 km on top of that which seems like a more standard current-day GT distance

Just for reference that's 170 km over Balés, Peyresourde and Aspin.

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

Why does Arcalis MTF considered to be such a fail?

I like it personally. Anything that remembers der kaiser is awesome.

I'm calling it right now, Geraint and Froome will have their Ullrich/Riis moment durning that stage and Geraint will crush everyone!

A well reasoned post. I never get too excited about the TDF route because its the easiest of the 3 GT's in terms of the route.

I am upset because i'll miss the live presentation on TV.

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Re:

Why does Arcalis MTF considered to be such a fail?

I like it personally. Anything that remembers der kaiser is awesome.

I'm calling it right now, Geraint and Froome will have their Ullrich/Riis moment durning that stage and Geraint will crush everyone!

A well reasoned post. I never get too excited about the TDF route because its the easiest of the 3 GT's in terms of the route.

I am upset because i'll miss the live presentation on TV.

This years tour route looks extremely difficult, not easy at all. And in fact tdf routes are never much easier than the other gt's, I mean this year there were 7 high mountain stages + cobbles + 3 very steep and difficult uphill finishes + another hard medium mountain stage + 2 more easy uphill finishes. Maybe its just me, but I think the difficulty is the smallest problem of the tour

 

[Valv.Piti]

Well, if you look at the last 4 Tours, time differences in the top-10 have been pretty remarkable. I especially think that the 2015 mountains were raced super hard, especially the last 4 days in the Alps with Allos +3x Glandon made huge differences and it really came down to a race of attrition of that point. I dont remember seeing the yellow jersey-group being more than 10 men at either of those Cols. Compare that to recent editions of Giro and Vuelta, Giro 2012 and 2013 fx.

 

[Eagle]

Re: Re:

Why does Arcalis MTF considered to be such a fail?

I like it personally. Anything that remembers der kaiser is awesome.

I'm calling it right now, Geraint and Froome will have their Ullrich/Riis moment durning that stage and Geraint will crush everyone!

A well reasoned post. I never get too excited about the TDF route because its the easiest of the 3 GT's in terms of the route.

I am upset because i'll miss the live presentation on TV.

When has the Vuelta route been harder than the tour?

 

[hrotha]

I think maybe some people count mountain stages as if they all were created equal.

 

[sir fly]

I've just tried to enter the official site of the next year's edition: http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2016/fr/, but I couldn't pass the log-in.
Velowire's presented this route, looks sensible, but it's missing the twist. It's close to this year's level of time trialing.

1 Sat. 2 July 2016 Mont-Saint-Michel Utah Beach - Sainte-Marie-du-Mont 188 km
2 Sun. 3 July 2016 Saint-Lô Cherbourg-Octeville 182 km
3 Mon. 4 July 2016 Granville Angers
4 Tues. 5 July 2016 Saumur Limoges
5 Wed. 6 July 2016 Limoges Le Lioran
6 Thu. 7 July 2016 Arpajon-sur-Cère Montauban
7 Fri. 8 July 2016 L'Isle-Jourdain Lac de Payolle
8 Sat. 9 July 2016 Pau Bagnères-de-Luchon
9 Sun. 10 July 2016 Val d'Aran (ES): Vielha Andorra Arcalis
R1 Mon. 11 July 2016 rest day in Andorra
10 Tues. 12 July 2016 Andorra la Vella Revel
11 Wed. 13 July 2016 Carcassonne Montpellier
12 Thu. 14 July 2016 Montpellier Mont Ventoux
13 Fri. 15 July 2016 Bourg-Saint-Andéol Vallon-Pont-d'Arc individual time trial
14 Sat. 16 July 2016 Montélimar Villars-les-Dombes
15 Sun. 17 July 2016 Bourg-en-Bresse Culoz
16 Mon. 18 July 2016 Moirans-en-Montagne Bern (CH)
R2 Tues. 19 July 2016 rest day in Bern (CH)
17 Wed. 20 July 2016 Bern (CH) Finhaut-Emosson (CH)
18 Thu. 21 July 2016 Sallanches Megève
19 Fri. 22 July 2016 Albertville Saint-Gervais Mont-Blanc
20 Sat. 23 July 2016 Saint-Gervais-les-Bains Morzine
21 Sun. 24 July 2016 Chantilly Paris Champs-Elysées

http://www.velowire.com/article/940...rs-about-the-race-route-and-the-stage-cities-

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Preview with Christian Prudhomme for the stage to Barrage d'Emosson.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Decouvrez-en-video-l-etape-du-barrage-d-emosson-du-tour-2016/600332

 

[Jan the Man]

It will be a staggeringly poor and unbalanced route if there are less than 40km of TTing.

For a route to be good it needs to be balanced. As much as we love the spectacle of mountains too many mountains in particular MTF ruin a race as much as too much TTing. The rumoured mountain stages are good but the rumoured lack of TTing will make it too favouring to climbers.

A very mountainous Tour should have at least 80km of TTing in my view.

 

[TommyGun]

Waiting for the Tour presentation, nice 2015 Tour retrospective on Eurosport right now. Brings back memories!

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Re:

It will be a staggeringly poor and unbalanced route if there are less than 40km of TTing.

For a route to be good it needs to be balanced. As much as we love the spectacle of mountains too many mountains in particular MTF ruin a race as much as too much TTing. The rumoured mountain stages are good but the rumoured lack of TTing will make it too favouring to climbers.

A very mountainous Tour should have at least 80km of TTing in my view.

Looks like two tt.

the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 1 Min.Vor 1 Minute

Two time trials in the 2016 Tour, one 37km as mentioned earlier and the other is Sallanches-Megève, 17km

 

[Max Rockatansky]

 

[hrotha]

Re:

It will be a staggeringly poor and unbalanced route if there are less than 40km of TTing.

40 km of flat ITT should never be nearly enough to make a balanced route.

 

[RedheadDane]

The French are gonna go crazy on July 14!
Well, crazier than they normally do.

 

[DenisMenchov]

It is plain stupid to have so little TT kms, there are more TTing in one week races than in a GTs nowaday, it just doesn't seem logical.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Re: Re:

It will be a staggeringly poor and unbalanced route if there are less than 40km of TTing.

For a route to be good it needs to be balanced. As much as we love the spectacle of mountains too many mountains in particular MTF ruin a race as much as too much TTing. The rumoured mountain stages are good but the rumoured lack of TTing will make it too favouring to climbers.

A very mountainous Tour should have at least 80km of TTing in my view.

Looks like two tt.

the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 1 Min.Vor 1 Minute

Two time trials in the 2016 Tour, one 37km as mentioned earlier and the other is Sallanches-Megève, 17km

The second is a mountain TT

 

[May0maniac]

Oh dear, a 232km stage for the sprinters...

 

[GuyIncognito]

Basically they're trying everything to make it go down to the wire, and screw a balanced route. It's what they've been doing for years now.
The guy who's been on top has the advantage in TTs, so they cut down on them. If a pure climber had won last year, we'd be back to 100+kms of TT this year.

 

[MikeTichondrius]

Didn't catch the Pyrenees stage routes. What is it looking like? I thought Aspin before Payolle.

Holy *** Grand Colombier twice?

 

[rghysens]

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Didn't catch the Pyrenees stage routes. What is it looking like? I thought Aspin before Payolle.

Holy **** Grand Colombier twice?

1.5
Never expected that it was possible to screw a stage with grand Colombier and finishing in Culoz

 

[TromleTromle]

no biche - but lots of flats of each side of the GC:....

LOL -

 

[guncha]

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Didn't catch the Pyrenees stage routes. What is it looking like? I thought Aspin before Payolle.

Holy **** Grand Colombier twice?

It was Aspin before Payolle. Culoz/Grand Colombier stage looked like ruined. Luchon and Arcalis stages looked great.

 

[MikeTichondrius]

When they mentioned the Lac de Bourget I almost hoped for le Chat there

I predict massive disappointment in the Morzine stage. It's gonna be Les Gets, not Joux Plane...How's the Luchon stage? Ancizan/Azet/Peyresourde is what I get from the big map but that's ot that reliable.

 

[Alexandre B.]

9km of flat. "Lots of flat" is an incorrect term.

 

[TromleTromle]

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9km of flat. "Lots of flat" is an incorrect term.

my bad - but still too much!