Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 km

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The_Beach said:
Why don't Sky put Henao at the front instead of Kwiatkowski, who is clearly stronger at the moment?

This is Kwiat's terrain. He is way more useful on flats and descents then anyone else, so better to use him over the whole descent and flat rather than for a bit on the mountains.
 
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Carols said:
GuyIncognito said:
red_flanders said:
Forgive my ignorance of inter-peloton drama and vendettas, but why would Quintana intentionally take out Contador?

There's absolutely no reason why he would.
Sure by all accounts he's an ***, but he's not violent. It's just fans overreacting in the moment.

Of course it Wasn't intentional if that is what happened!! Just misjudged.... who said it was intentional??? All we have is some commentators words and a very unclear view of what happened.

Exactly. Nobody is seriously claiming that Quintana (or any rider for that matter) would do that deliberately to Contador. Still, it was a rather weird incident.

And now it seems that we have about forty boring kms until this starts getting REALLY interesting on Mont Du Chat, and if Contador is dropped convincingly then us fans will have another 12 months (or the rest of our lives) of asking what if (not for these crashes)?
 
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Ruby United said:
Funny how, in the space of two years, Quintana has gone from being one of the most likeable riders on this forum to one of the most hated.

Partly he's started winning. People like underdogs and turn on them when they're successful.

Partly ex-teammates have started to talk about his personality and they rarely have anything good to say.
 
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The_Beach said:
Why don't Sky put Henao at the front instead of Kwiatkowski, who is clearly stronger at the moment?
Henao is cooked and they want to close the gap for the front. Bananito is in yellow at this moment
 
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portugal11 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Apparently Pantano is waiting for the yellow jersey group. I'd have kept him in the front group, he's super fast in a sprint.
Flo, he is awful . I'm pretty sure he wouldn't survive mont du chat

Never really came off as an elite climber, displayed similar last year but made up on the descents and has a very strong sprint...would have made for an exciting display possibly
 
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GuyIncognito said:
Ruby United said:
Funny how, in the space of two years, Quintana has gone from being one of the most likeable riders on this forum to one of the most hated.

Partly he's started winning. People like underdogs and turn on them when they're successful.

Partly ex-teammates have started to talk about his personality and they rarely have anything good to say.

Also, he used to be more aggressive and risk-taking.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
Ruby United said:
Funny how, in the space of two years, Quintana has gone from being one of the most likeable riders on this forum to one of the most hated.

Partly he's started winning. People like underdogs and turn on them when they're successful.

Partly ex-teammates have started to talk about his personality and they rarely have anything good to say.
But mostly because he never smiles.
 
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Ruby United said:
GuyIncognito said:
Ruby United said:
Funny how, in the space of two years, Quintana has gone from being one of the most likeable riders on this forum to one of the most hated.

Partly he's started winning. People like underdogs and turn on them when they're successful.

Partly ex-teammates have started to talk about his personality and they rarely have anything good to say.

Also, he used to be more aggressive and risk-taking.

That too
 
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Looks like something happened before MdC after all.

I take it all the heads of state are still together though and relatively unscathed?
 
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Rollthedice said:
GuyIncognito said:
Ruby United said:
Funny how, in the space of two years, Quintana has gone from being one of the most likeable riders on this forum to one of the most hated.

Partly he's started winning. People like underdogs and turn on them when they're successful.

Partly ex-teammates have started to talk about his personality and they rarely have anything good to say.
But mostly because he never smiles.
Stelvio's gate changed everything. And toussuire confirmed and increased the hate
 
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gregrowlerson said:
Carols said:
GuyIncognito said:
red_flanders said:
Forgive my ignorance of inter-peloton drama and vendettas, but why would Quintana intentionally take out Contador?

There's absolutely no reason why he would.
Sure by all accounts he's an ***, but he's not violent. It's just fans overreacting in the moment.

Of course it Wasn't intentional if that is what happened!! Just misjudged.... who said it was intentional??? All we have is some commentators words and a very unclear view of what happened.

Exactly. Nobody is seriously claiming that Quintana (or any rider for that matter) would do that deliberately to Contador. Still, it was a rather weird incident.

And now it seems that we have about forty boring kms until this starts getting REALLY interesting on Mont Du Chat, and if Contador is dropped convincingly then us fans will have another 12 months (or the rest of our lives) of asking what if (not for these crashes)?

Several people on this thread suggested or stated it was intentional. Seemed not to make sense so I asked. Thanks for all the replies.
 
Even with Betancur up front, and Valverde and Herrada's crashes, it's pretty bad Movistar still have no one with Quintana considering the pace. Amador and Castroviejo should really have been able to survive until now. Should have brought Soler, Carapaz or Fernandez instead of Sutterlin
 

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