Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 16: Passy - Combloux, 22.4k (ITT)

[Zoetemelk-fan]

This thing called bonus seconds should not be at the tour. It's ridiculous. The gaps should be the only thing that matters.

Bonus secs are ASO's idea of leading stages into certain scenarios in order to spice things up, but in these years there's really no need, so agree.

 

[Potomac]

Now we can see if Cavagna's time will hold.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Now we can see if Cavagna's time will hold.

I read a comment about Cavagna's time not being that good?

 

[FrontHeadlock]

Bonus secs are ASO's idea of leading stages into certain scenarios in order to spice things up, but in these years there's really no need, so agree.

I generally dislike any decisions that are made to artificially create drama for $$$ and eyeballs.

 

[Salvarani]

Go Ciccone!

 

[RobertCrawley]

Ciccone has a bike change. I wonder if the seconds for the bike change count toward the climb.

 

[Salvarani]

Ciccone has a bike change. I wonder if the seconds for the bike change count toward the climb.

No... the timing doesnt start until the climb.

 

[Potomac]

I read a comment about Cavagna's time not being that good?

Early on his time was dismissed, but it has been holding up. I'm impressed.

 

[Sciatic]

Dennis Ritter: The worst part about this climb, is that when it's done, it continues!

It’s true that those are always the worst kind! (Speaking for myself)

 

[DNP-Old]

Van Aert looks slow.

 

[Potomac]

I generally dislike any decisions that are made to artificially create drama for $$$ and eyeballs.

You dislike spectator sports in general?

 

[Trofonios]

Wout looking smooth.

 

[glassmoon]

Van Aert looks slow.

well he is on the 13% inclination so...

 

[Salvarani]

Van Aert looks slow.

10-13% where he is at.

 

[DNP-Old]

well he is on the 13% inclination so...

Slower than Cavagna on the climb.

 

[FrontHeadlock]

You dislike spectator sports in general?

No. Competition-level decisions should be made with the competition in mind, not to create drama in the hopes of attracting eyeballs and $$$.

 

[Boehmand]

Several of the Danish riders getting interviewed at the finish say, that the heat was a huge factor up the last climb.

Gregaard (who is a climber) lost 41 seconds to Cavagna up the climb, and said he simply overcooked because he got no relief in the TT-helmet (dropped from 11th to 19th on the climb).

Asgreen was so overheated that the race doctor attended him when he collapsed after the line.

 

[Didinho]

Slower than Cavagna on the climb.

Saving himself for the last climb.

 

[Berniece]

Slower than Cavagna on the climb.

We have to wait for his intermediate time, but JV wants to go all-in tomorrow. Maybe everyone besides Vingegaard has to take it slow today.

 

[DNP-Old]

Van Aert 3rd.

 

[saunaking]

mountain points on an ITT are the best!
Is this a recent development?

 

[Trofonios]

Lutsenko did a strong climb, 13s faster than Cavagna. On road bike.

 

[Didinho]

We have to wait for his intermediate time, but JV wants to go all-in tomorrow. Maybe everyone besides Vingegaard has to take it slow today.

Wout, Kuss and Vingo go all out today.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Yeah, especially Küng but also Cavagna underperformed on the last climb so this is probably a deliberate negative split by WVA. Not that it'll matter in the end, Pog and Vingegaard will smoke him.

 

[Boehmand]

It would appear around 90 % of DS's finish all sentences on the radio with "eh?"

Wannabe Canadians?