Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 14: Pau - Saint-Lary-Soulan Pla d’Adet 151.9km

[Jack_89]

I don't expect attacks tomorrow. I find likely the Alpe d'Huez 2022 scenario: Pogacar scared/unsure and Jonas waiting Plateau de Beille to drop the hammer.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I never heard that, but aren't those two things around the same?

Exchange rate was around 1.2 in July 2005, so he only got around 41/42000 Euros probably.

 

[Medvind]

Still think Pogi will try to make it as hard as possible this weekend and win the stage with a minute and more. If not attacking he’ll win the sprint against Vingo. Hope Remco can stay consistent.

Jumbo LAB will be thankful if UAE rides hard because they think the harder it is the better for Vinge. And UAE might be a little hesitant after stage 11.

 

[Nick2413]

Pog said the Livigno stage was the hardest stage profile he’s ever done, and it felt to me like a test for the Tour, specifically stage 15 perhaps. I think that stage scares him and he wants to be at his best for it.

 

[staubsauger]

Probably the stage for the breakaway artists.

Bardet, Gaudu, Healy for the stage win and / or the KOM on the Tourmalet? Maybe even Hindley? Anyone else that can be expected tomorrow?

I think the big guns are waiting for the big mtf at the Plateau de Beille. Maybe they surprise us instead. Who knows?

Still should be great entertainment with the breakaway fight and the pitoresque landscape of the Pyrenees!

 

[Medvind]

Pog said the Livigno stage was the hardest stage profile he’s ever done, and it felt to me like a test for the Tour, specifically stage 15 perhaps. I think that stage scares him and he wants to be at his best for it.

So maybe Jumbo LAB should drill it tomorrow, betting that Vinge will recover better than Pog to sunday. Tourmalet and d'Anzican are not too steep and looks quite good for a hard-pacing Jumbo train.

 

[Cookster15]

Pog said the Livigno stage was the hardest stage profile he’s ever done, and it felt to me like a test for the Tour, specifically stage 15 perhaps. I think that stage scares him and he wants to be at his best for it.

I think more likely stage 19 scares Pog more but Vingegaard has been surprising us and might try something earlier if he's feeling good.

Livigno stage in the Giro was 222km and finished at 2,387metres. Stage 15 of this Tour is PdB which is 198km finishing at 1,780metres.

 

[Nick2413]

I think more likely stage 19 scares Pog more but Vingegaard has been surprising us and might try something earlier if he's feeling good.

Livigno stage in the Giro was 222km and finished at 2,387metres. Stage 15 of this Tour is PdB which is 198km finished at 1,780metres.

Yeah Bonette/Isola could be a killer

 

[tobydawq]

Exchange rate was around 1.2 in July 2005, so he only got around 41/42000 Euros probably.

How do you know this (not what the exchange rate was)?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

How do you know this (not what the exchange rate was)?

I don‘t, I only picked up the story with the money from the English Wikipedia which cites a Spanish radio interview with Pereiro.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I don‘t, I only picked up the story with the money from the English Wikipedia which cites a Spanish radio interview with Pereiro.

I am not fully convinced you didn't handle the bank transfer,

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I am not fully convinced you didn't handle the bank transfer,

To do that, I‘d have to be old, which I fortunately am not.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

To do that, I‘d have to be old, which I fortunately am not.

You seem to have a different opinion on what counts as being old than RedheadDane.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

You seem to have a different opinion on what counts as being old than RedheadDane.

To handle the bank transfer, you‘d probably need to be a legal adult by 2005, which is almost RhD‘s definition of being the measuring stick for age.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

To handle the bank transfer, you‘d probably need to be a legal adult by 2005, which is almost RhD‘s definition of being the measuring stick for age.

If it was done by hitting a keyboard button perhaps a child could have managed it.

However seeing that Pereiro's German Wiki bio makes no mention of it obviously makes me doubt the story is even true.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

If it was done by hitting a keyboard button perhaps a child could have managed it.

However seeing that Pereiro's German Wiki bio makes no mention of it obviously makes me doubt the story is even true.

Pereiro‘s German Wiki also does not state if he has the perfect body for a climber.

 

[Froome]

They shouldve just done that stage again, to think what Pogi and Vingo could do with this, granted they arent George Hincapie of all people, but they might come close

Brutal stage.

 

[Froome]

Would be fun. I don't think Pogi's pride would allow it.

He can be a wheelsucker, remember Tourmalet/Cauterets.

 

[Froome]

If Pogacar races conservatively he is 1'30' ahead of Vingo after this weekend and has more in store for the final weekend, where Vingo will need a long range attack against UAE superdoms or miraclous ITT (if Pog has enough energy and avoids bad day it will likely fail). Obviously if Pogacar senses some Vingos weakness this weekend he can go for it, they know each other well so he should smell blood.

Isn't there a chance that Pogacar races conservately and Vingegaard still drops him?
I don't think is that impossible to Vingegaard push more w/kg on Pla d'Adet and especially Plateau de beille. Even more if they make the stages super hard.

 

[dobrien]

On paper this stage looks more like the appetizer for the main event on Sunday, but the way this Tour has been ridden a total hammerfest would not surprise me one bit. I'm in the camp of folks who think the smart call this weekend is for Pog to just follow Jonas. Like it or not he's got to start thinking ahead to 19, 20, and 21, and should not be wasting his team or himself just to try to gain15-20 more seconds. Obviously if Jonas shows any weakness then yes, drop the hammer, but in my view if he gets to Sunday night and has come out even with Jonas the weekend has been a success.

 

[dobrien]

Isn't there a chance that Pogacar races conservately and Vingegaard still drops him?

If this happens he's dead meat; Jonas will slaughter him next week.

 

[titan31]

I think the main GC guys will be looking at Sunday so won't try anything major (attack a few kms from the end probably) and can see the break take this. I'm not sure who actually has any strength but maybe Healy, Cras, Hindley, Simon Yates will be looking at the stage. Would assume Bardet and Lazkano will be in the break too.

 

[tobydawq]

If this happens he's dead meat; Jonas will slaughter him next week.

How?

Have Bart Lemmen setting a hard pace on the climbs?

 

[stekelegel]

I dont know if the way the last 3 days have gone are favoring Pog or Vinge. Normally it would suit the Danish mountain goat with the endless reserves best, but it might just be that his base is just a bit smaller this year. But if that is the case, Pog wins anyway.
The great Lucien Van Impe always said the Pyrenees are better suited to interval climbers like Pogacar, So if he feels OK, he should just go for it.
Alternative scenario 1, Pog and Vinge both decide to watch each other and Remco goes on the flatter parts of the last climb, who will react?
Alternative scenario 2: break away with team mates (Yates, Landa, Jorgensen, shame about Ayuso, he could have secured a top 3 finisch with a good breakaway here), will they ride?

 

[gregrowlerson]

With the tougher MTF (plus much longer, proper length) tomorrow I'd normally say that very little happens on stage 14. But Pogacar and Vingegaard are not normal, so attacks as far out as Tourmalet would not surprise (they may combine their efforts for a while to put proper time into Remco).

As for the route and racing this year, I give it a pass. No MTF to this point is a bit misleading as stages 2, 4 and 11 have all been mountain stages with decent to very good racing (stages 7 & 9 also were far from boring as far as GC action is concerned). MANY editions of the past were lucky to have a couple of stages that were worth viewing from a GC perspective in the first 13 stages. Any current complaints are due to the amazing amount of GC action we had in the past two editions.