I reviewed the climb in the Tour 2014, and i remembered that the climb is more hard than i thought.This is probably the single most formulaic Tour mountain stage you can design, but Plat d'Adet is a great MTF so I won't cry too much
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I reviewed the climb in the Tour 2014, and i remembered that the climb is more hard than i thought.This is probably the single most formulaic Tour mountain stage you can design, but Plat d'Adet is a great MTF so I won't cry too much
Rick clarified my point for me, but.. my point was simply, if Pog is riding conservatively (meaning trying to save energy, not going thermonuclear) and he STILL gets dropped by Jonas tomorrow, then I'm simply assuming at that point Jonas will be able to nuke Pog at will, without needed a train, given the difficulty of the upcoming stages/accumulated fatigue in Pog. Which is (I'm thinking) just a different way of saying what Rick already said.How?
Have Bart Lemmen setting a hard pace on the climbs?
I think there’s a chance for anything. If UAE rides more conservatively they won’t have burned off Yates, which is to Pogacar’s benefit in that if he gets drops Yates might still be in contact to help him chase. Of course that won’t be possible if Pog/Ving have already destroyed all life on earth and then Vingegaard drops him,Isn't there a chance that Pogacar races conservately and Vingegaard still drops him?
I don't think is that impossible to Vingegaard push more w/kg on Pla d'Adet and especially Plateau de beille. Even more if they make the stages super hard.
Ya, I'd say Madouas out of any of the FDJ ridersSurprised to see a couple folks tipping Gaudu, he just hasn't done anything to make me think he could separate from even a strong break. Or even get into a strong break. To me he seems totally out of the race.
Not a believer.
Talk about a record that's gonna go down
Pla d'Adet top 50 refreshed by the 2014 riders
1. 1993: 29:35 Zenon Jaskula 20.89 km/h
2. 1993: 29:35 Tony Rominger 20.89 km/h
3. 1993: 29:38 Miguel Indurain 20.85 km/h
4. 2001: 29:48 Lance Armstrong 20.74 km/h
5. 1993: 30:00 Stephen Roche 20.60 km/h
6. 2014: 30:32 Vincenzo Nibali 20.24 km/h
7. 2014: 30:32 Jean-Christophe Péraud 20.24 km/h
8. 2005: 30:34 Ivan Basso 20.22 km/h
9. 2005: 30:34 Lance Armstrong 20.22 km/h
10. 1993: 30:41 Robert Millar 20.14 km/h
11. 1993: 30:43 Andrew Hampsten 20.12 km/h
12. 1993: 30:43 Alvaro Mejia 20.12 km/h
13. 2001: 30:48 Jan Ullrich 20.06 km/h
14. 2005: 30:58 Michael Rasmussen 19.96 km/h
15. 2005: 30:58 Francisco Mancebo 19.96 km/h
16. 1993: 31:10 Richard Virenque 19.83 km/h
17. 1993: 31:10 Jon Unzaga 19.83 km/h
18. 1993: 31:10 Claudio Chiappucci 19.83 km/h
19. 1993: 31:12 Jean-Philippe Dojwa 19.81 km/h
20. 1993: 31:14 Johan Bruyneel 19.79 km/h
21. 1993: 31:16 Gianni Faresin 19.77 km/h
22. 2014: 31:21 Alejandro Valverde 19.71 km/h
23. 1993: 31:24 Antonio Martin 19.68 km/h
24. 2014: 31:26 Thibaut Pinot 19.66 km/h
25. 2014: 31:26 Tejay Van Garderen 19.66 km/h
26. 1993: 31:27 Roberto Conti 19.65 km/h
27. 1993: 31:27 Bjarne Riis 19.65 km/h
28. 2001: 31:34 Joseba Beloki 19.58 km/h
29. 2001: 31:34 Roberto Heras 19.58 km/h
30. 2014: 31:36 Laurens Ten Dam 19.56 km/h
31. 2014: 31:47 Mikel Nieve 19.44 km/h
32. 2014: 31:50 Rafal Majka 19.41 km/h
33. 2005: 31:58 Jan Ullrich 19.33 km/h
34. 2005: 31:59 Alexandre Vinokourov 19.32 km/h
35. 2014: 32:00 Romain Bardet 19.31 km/h
36. 2005: 32:20 Levi Leipheimer 19.11 km/h
37. 1993: 32:28 Franco Vona 19.03 km/h
38. 2014: 32:32 Giovanni Visconti 19.00 km/h
39. 2014: 32:39 Alessandro De Marchi 18.93 km/h
40. 2001: 32:40 Igor Gonzalez De Galdeano 18.92 km/h
41. 2005: 32:40 Christophe Moreau 18.92 km/h
42. 1993: 32:50 Pedro Delgado 18.82 km/h
43. 1993: 32:50 Alberto Elli 18.82 km/h
44. 2014: 32:55 Pierre Rolland 18.77 km/h
45. 2005: 33:00 George Hincapie 18.73 km/h
46. 2014: 33:02 Frank Schleck 18.71 km/h
47. 2014: 33:02 Bauke Mollema 18.71 km/h
48. 2001: 33:03 Marcos Serrano 18.70 km/h
49. 2005: 33:06 Oscar Pereiro 18.67 km/h
50. 1982: 33:13 Beat Breu 18.61 km/h
I know. That would also be my plan as a DS. But Jonas still misses some base condition he missed out in hospital, and I got the feeling he went hard already untill now. Just try again this weekend, as it’s the first hard mountain stage. That’s just my guess that Pogi will try first hard if he’s feeling strong and if he doesn’t get a gap he will follow.I dont think making the race as hard as possible is the way to go for UAE vs Vingo. They threw a kitchen sink on Wednesday and failed an now realize Vingo's power. If I were Pogs DS the plan would be simple: stick to Jonas wheel and if feeling good attack in the last km to increase the GC gap a bit more. its on Jonas to attack first now, he is losing in the GC.
Wout going nuclear? This isn’t 4 years agoWvA in the break, he will wait for Jonas and Pogi on the last climb and he then will drop Pogi (again) by going nuclear.
Isn't there a chance that Pogacar races conservately and Vingegaard still drops him?
I don't think is that impossible to Vingegaard push more w/kg on Pla d'Adet and especially Plateau de beille. Even more if they make the stages super hard.
I’m surprised to see this podcast being regularly shared on the forum. Are we over what Lance did to the sport now? Or is it out of pity that we contribute to his marketing? I’m genuinely curious
I’m surprised to see this podcast being regularly shared on the forum. Are we over what Lance did to the sport now? Or is it out of pity that we contribute to his marketing? I’m genuinely curious
UAE has been a man down the whole race.With a man down, I think UAE will wait until the last climb before going full USPS. Then it will be who can follow and Visma will be happy with the GC guys coming in together.
If Pogi can not drop Vingegaard then the PR/mind games will be wratched up a nothch.
UAE has been a man down the whole race.