Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 20: Nice - Col de la Couillole, 20/07, 132.8k

[Miha81]

Jonas wanted more time to Remco.

Did he needed it though? Anyway both Remco and Jonas pawed road to Pog's win. Why blame Pog to take what is available.

On second thought. I am still waiting to accidentally land on couple of millions

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Why interview any of the Yates ?

Its always the same breathless bunch of cliches. I could tape it and play it back after any race and who would know the difference ?

 

[Jack_89]

Btw I really enjoyed the last climb: personally they put on the street the best show of this show. A lot of duals between the GC guys( Ciccone-Buitrago,Landa-Almeida,Remco-Jonas, Pogacar-Jonas) and in the break between Mas and Carapaz. No holds barred, simply amazing

 

[Colombiano Cadence]

I have been super critical of Pogi chasing down breaks in order to win grand tour stages when the GC is already sewn up, but anyone saying he should have gifted the stage to Jonas are crazy. Gift a stage to rider that mean a be life changing moment for them, not to a rival, a two time TDF winner who showed you no mercy the previous year

 

[CleanCiclismo]

Guilty as charged. ... I was trying to be funny. Good thing I don't do standup for a living.

Maybe you could ask Kirby for a recommendation and then you can commentate races on Eurosport.

 

[AmRacer]

Did he needed it though? Anyway both Remco and Jonas pawed road to Pog's win. Why blame Pog to take what is available.

On second thought. I am still waiting to accidentally land on couple of millions

If he can get some and make Remco think twice about tomorrow, then it is worth it.

 

[memyselfandI]

The reasons Tadej Merckx won.
1. Remco had balls attacking Jonas
2. Jonas showed Remco who has the biggest
3. It was good Tadej didn't interfere in Jonas/Remco battle

+1

It was a gift already in this phase of a stage from Pogi to share short pull with Vingo. to fortify his battle for second place in GC.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Remco in the young rider jersey seems so odd, it feels like he's been around forever. Good job during this Tour though - he couldn't compete with Pog or Vingo, but good job nonetheless.

 

[Netserk]

I have been super critical of Pogi chasing down breaks in order to win grand tour stages when the GC is already sewn up, but anyone saying he should have gifted the stage to Jonas are crazy. Gift a stage to rider that mean a be life changing moment for them, not to a rival, a two time TDF winner who showed you no mercy the previous year

It was not crazy when Indurain stayed behind Rominger and didn't contest those stage wins. But then you do like Vingegaard yesterday, you stay back on the wheel the entire way.

 

[will-10]

Pogi to win by accident

maybe y'all will give me a prophet thread now too

 

[Lequack]

Lanterne rouge

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8w6LGMXcvM

 

[jaylew]

Vingegaard stupidly forced Pogi to the front with 500 m to go. Had he just kept going, it's not unfathomable that Pogi would have stayed behind à la Indurain (maybe 5 % chance). In any case, it'd have looked better to lose after dragging Pogi the entire way.

A half assed pull for 10 seconds didn't change anything about how losing the sprint looked.

 

[tobydawq]

Nice moment with the Intermarché riders crossing the line arm in arm as there won't be such photo opportunities tomorrow.

 

[Colombiano Cadence]

It was not crazy when Indurain stayed behind Rominger and didn't contest those stage wins. But then you do like Vingegaard yesterday, you stay back on the wheel the entire way.

Jonas wasn’t contesting the stage victory yesterday, I’m sure he would have sprinted with Remco if it was for a stage win

 

[tobydawq]

Anyway, only good thing was I was obviously right about the bad stage design of this stage

I can't tell if you're joking.

 

[will-10]

Of course I can't help being accused of Bias due to being Danish, but I really don't see why Pogi couldn't "gift" this to Vingegaard as well as he wanted to gift it to the breakaway? Yes, he is/was clearly strongest, but when the strongest rider wheelsuck (don't like the term, but that's the majority vote) for that long, it would in my book be considered more generous to let another win. I would've thought the same if he arrived with Remco.

I understand why people like to throw back to the romantic old days where such things were more common but as professionalism in the sport increases it should absolutely be left in the past: gifts in general reduce the integrity of the race. No-one wants a stage win with an asterisk. If you apply it to other sports it's easy to see why - gifts in a lot of instances are synonymous with match-fixing so of course don't happen.

 

[tobydawq]

Cavendish crosses the line with tears in his eyes.

 

[AmRacer]

Cavendish crosses the line with tears in his eyes.

He knows he will, in a couple of years, not having the TdF stage win record.

 

[tobydawq]

He knows he will, in a couple of years, not having TdF stage record win.

I think one of my pet hates is posters who feel the need to explain why sports people show emotion with a very cynical take that's obviously not true.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

This mostly speaks to the strength of Pogacar and the way guys race now compared to the past, but the gap between Remco in third and Pogacar is bigger than:

• The gap between Pogi and Vingegaard last year when Pogacar had an epic collapse (“I’m dead; I’m gone”)
• The gap between G in third and Vingegaard in 2022
• The gap between Carapaz in third and Pogacar in 2021
• The gap between Rigoberto Uran in 8th and Pogacar in 2020
• The gap between Barguil in 10th and Bernal in 2019
• The gap between Landa in 7th and G in 2018
• …
• 1.5 minutes more than the gap between Contador, who was a shadow of himself, in 4th and Froome, in his most dominant GT, in 2013
• …
• The gap between Nibali in 7th and Contador in 2009

Crazy! They do not eff around these days

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I'm thinking Pog will make a concerted effort to catch Vingo tomorrow.

 

[Movitrain]

let the record show that soudal quickstep disgraced the break and the heroic efforts of Enric "cyclismo" Mas

Indeed. The wrath of Enric at La Vuelta will be measureless!

 

[yaco]

Cavendish crosses the line with tears in his eyes.

They missed the time cut by thirty seconds.

 

[will-10]

They missed the time cut by thirty seconds.

They made it by six minutes

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I'm glad Pogacar didn't gift the stage to Vingegaard, and honestly I see it as a sign of respect for Vingegaard, and I think he sees it that way too.

Pogacar vs Vingegaard is probably already the greatest rivalry in the history of the sport (well, Coppi vs. Bartali is hard to beat but that's for many other reasons besides those on the bike) and I'll like it to stay that way. they shouldn't start gifting each other wins.