Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 19: Albertville-La Plagne (93.1k) ‚Historic day, magnificent racing‘ ~ Rob Hatch, probably

[jono]

Do people here not have any sense of history of cycling races, or an understanding of European farmers? The Tour doesn't want their stage interrupted by angry farmers parking their tractors across the road (or dumped animal carcasses) in protest of the cull.

 

[Gigs_98]

We both know you and I cared very much until Lo Squalo crossed the finish line in Val Thorens with his hands in the air.

I didn't care when they changed the route. I very much cared about what happened on said route.

 

[houtdffan]

why not include alternate climbs instead of the Gouvenou junior special?

 

[staubsauger]

Stone me but this could actually be better if Vingegaard decides he wants polka dots as consolidating.

If so Lippowitz is in big trouble with full pace early on at Roseland / Pre

 

[broppo]

Stone me but this could actually be better if Vingegaard decides he wants polka dots as consolidating.

If so Lippowitz is in big trouble with full pace early on at Roseland / Pre

Why would he be in trouble? He just has to follow onley. I think onley was only stronger today because Lipowitz spent his energy in a terrible way. While Onley could save himself in the wheels of his team.

 

[staubsauger]

Why would he be in trouble? He just has to follow onley. I think onley was only stronger today because Lipowitz spent his energy in a terrible way. While Onley could save himself in the wheels of his team.

Exhaustment. Anxiety to fail completely. Pressure to succeed. Friendly fire from his own teammate. Nervousness that already showed today.

 

[broppo]

Exhaustment. Anxiety to fail completely. Pressure to succeed. Friendly fire from his own teammate. Nervousness that already showed today.

Yeah could be, I hope for Lipowitz sake they will just put Roglic in domestique duty tomorrow, then I think it will all be fine.

 

[will-10]

The intermediate sprint has been moved to the 1km to go banner on La Plagne and is now worth 75 points. I guess all jerseys for Pogi after all

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Stone me but this could actually be better if Vingegaard decides he wants polka dots as consolidating.

If so Lippowitz is in big trouble with full pace early on at Roseland / Pre

Thought at first that the polka dot thing is a good idea but thinking about it. Let's say Pogacar wins the stage (which tbh is about 80% going to happen), Vingegaard would need to make up 21 points if he finishes second. So basically cross Col du Pre and Roselend in first position but then Pogacar can't score almost at all on these Cols, which would mean not in top 8 positions going over the top. Very unlikely if you ask me.

Now with the route altered this will just go to Pogacar again.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Hopefully for Rogla to have good legs and to go for it again.

P.S. And for Visma to do a better job if Jonas deciding to bridge. As for Pogi, he in the end is always interested in a stage win, as long as others do the work. Pogi is spiritual successor to Rogla in terms of Visma. Visma does the work and Pogi takes the win, they are a rather good team.

 

[staubsauger]

Thought at first that the polka dot thing is a good idea but thinking about it. Let's say Pogacar wins the stage (which tbh is about 80% going to happen), Vingegaard would need to make up 21 points if he finishes second. So basically cross Col du Pre and Roselend in first position but then Pogacar can't score almost at all on these Cols, which would mean not in top 8 positions going over the top. Very unlikely if you ask me.

Now with the route altered this will just go to Pogacar again.

I kinda hoped Pogacar generously would let Vingegaard take the stage win for once, but Visma hasn't really made friendships with their wicked tactics. So you're probably right.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

why not include alternate climbs instead of the Gouvenou junior special?

They could do Col du Pré twice as a loop as a replacement.

 

[YavorD]

They could do Col du Pré twice as a loop as a replacement.

Yes, they could. They could if they cared to make the stage somewhat harder or at least similar
.
But since they don't care about that, because, you know, "riders make the race" and "short and expensive stages are better" they only shorten stages.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

This thread right now...

 

[Brullnux]

Who cares, there's 1.1 racing in Spain on at the same time.

 

[Tonton]

Vauquelin has to do something and get 6th back, Felix thinks otherwise. The podium race has to unfold. Jonas couldn't shake Pog off his wheel in La Madeleine. Tadej is just too good. Short stage, high tempo, desperate people, Pog wins this bike race. The icing on the cake.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Have they changed the start times?

 

[Cookster15]

Yes, last roll of the dice. But Pogi's lead is too much. I have to back him to win this stage too (sorry all).

Battle for 3rd is interesting. Thinking maybe Lipowitz recovers from his bad day today to deny Onley his breakthrough. But Oscar pulling it off would not surprise me, he has ridden a great (consistently strong) Tour.

 

[staubsauger]

Is Col du Pre simply the early part of the Roseland through the fir forest?

 

[tigabara]

I know, everybody, almost everybody, will choose Pogacar launch bla, bla.... But, for this time, I choose Lipowitz loses his mind... I don't know what it's mean but it's sound cool...

 

[proffate]

Have they changed the start times?

One hour later

 

[proffate]

Do people here not have any sense of history of cycling races, or an understanding of European farmers? The Tour doesn't want their stage interrupted by angry farmers parking their tractors across the road (or dumped animal carcasses) in protest of the cull.

That makes more sense. What they said is a polite euphemism for "unhinged farmers will be rioting on this mountain"

 

[Jungle Cycle]

so, amateurs have done more on the Letape last sunday than the highly trained PROs will....
disappointment

 

[Rackham]

It's always a risk in a GT. Whether it's weather related issues, a landslide or some political/social event, we get 11th hour stage redesigns.

The issue here is it pretty much seals Pog's overall win because there's no way Vinge isolates him before the final climb and there's no way he's putting nearly 5 minutes into him on la Plagne. But was that ever in doubt? Vinge has had nearly 3 weeks to crack the Pog nut and all he's done is lose time.

The battle for 3'd is way more exciting though.

 

[Rob5091]

Well, I did not have bovine nodular dermatitis down on my Tour bingo card. (apparently it's treated with a goat pox vaccine .. there's a Pogacar joke there somewhere).. Some how, this just about sums up this year's Tour - after Hautacam, it's been on it's last legs.
Yep, we could have done with a farmer's protest this year. Tractors, hay bales, tear gas the whole kit and caboodle The anti-Israel protests have been pretty lame - should have asked the farmers for tips.