Tour de France Stage 4: Lorient - Mur de Bretagne - 172.5 km

[sportzchick]

I think people have different perspective than being "wrong".

I think its wrong to compare the sport to the past. You don't do it for any of sport do you? Footballers were (generalising) alcoholic, chain-smoking bludgers in comparison to todays professionals - do you compare them, or even can you compare?

Sport changes, cycling is no different. For me, any cycling is interesting, in all its new incarnations and you should ask Chavanel if he thinks breakways don't succeed in Grand Tours. Or De Gendt about Paris-Nice.

The UCI shouldn't be imposing new rules to liven up the racing and create more 'spectacles' for fans. If the pros for the riders and teams to have something like radios, which have become essential, far outweigh the cons then leave them.

New technology, new tactics, new riders, everything changes, lets not try to be bogged down by "glory days"

replace everything Ive said with that........i was trying to make that point (not very well but trying)

 

[spalco]

he was skinny back then with 80kg and 1.90m. i am 84kg and 1.80m.

but 68 kg with 1.90m?????????????



it isn't healthy!

Probably not, but neither is riding 4000km over several different mountain ranges in 3 weeks in general. I'm assuming that saying he has superb medical supervision is an understatement so I wouldn't worry about that.

 

[valentius borealis]

Just watching the RAI coverage of the stage today and there was a side presentation on the 1949 Tour which had a time trial that passed over the Mur de Bretagne that was 139 KILOMETERS LONG.

Now that's a freakin time trial!

In 1979, they had a team time trial which covered a similar distance.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

New technology, new tactics, new riders, everything changes, lets not try to be bogged down by "glory days"

I've no problem with that, but equally we shouldn't treat the current set up as sacrosanct. It evolved and it should continue to evolve. Sports of all kind change the rules to thwart tactics which become dominant at the expense of entertainment.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

At this point, this stage is stunningly boring.

Sherwen and Liggett are sniffing RadioShack's crotch at the moment.

 

[spalco]

I've no problem with that, but equally we shouldn't treat the current set up as sacrosanct. It evolved and it should continue to evolve. Sports of all kind change the rules to thwart tactics which become dominant at the expense of entertainment.

The viewers' entertainment is merely a side-effect of the athletes trying to win in professional sports.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

he was skinny back then with 80kg and 1.90m. i am 84kg and 1.80m.

but 68 kg with 1.90m?????????????



it isn't healthy!

According to Gesink's website he is 189cm and 69kg.

Think it is pretty standard for the mountain men. see braj. for unhealthy. His weight is F**ded up.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

At this point, this stage is stunningly boring.

Sherwen and Liggett are sniffing RadioShack's crotch at the moment.

I feel like slapping liggit, yes slapping.

 

[Maxiton]

Is there any point or purpose served by having riders in the saddle five to eight hours a day, or having so many climbs, one after the other? Wouldn't it be just as exciting if it were, say, three hours and one or two climbs? Not being hindbound by nostalgia means being able to make real changes.

 

[Ferminal]

That's it Andre, get on the front.

 

[Maxiton]

I feel like slapping liggit, yes slapping.

I heard he likes that.

 

[roundabout]

According to Gesink's website he is 189cm and 69kg.

Think it is pretty standard for the mountain men. see braj. for unhealthy. His weight is F**ded up.

Brajkovic has twigs for arms though. He also isn't very tall, wiki says 1.75.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

I heard he likes that.

only if the hand belongs to lance, Bradley or cadel.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

The viewers' entertainment is merely a side-effect of the athletes trying to win in professional sports.

That's completely the wrong way around. Professional cycling exists to advertise products to an audience attracted by the promise of entertainment. Professional cycling has been about that from the start.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Brajkovic has twigs for arms though. He also isn't very tall, wiki says 1.75.

That's true, tho his weight looks so unhealthy.

 

[Carl0880]

This is the first break that had better then a .1 percent chance of staying away. If one of those leaders have enough power to attack his breakaway companions, they might have a 5% chance of winning the stage.

Obviously, Omega is worried forcing Griepel to work on the front.

 

[Tuarts]

I've no problem with that, but equally we shouldn't treat the current set up as sacrosanct. It evolved and it should continue to evolve. Sports of all kind change the rules to thwart tactics which become dominant at the expense of entertainment.

Of course not, keep things regimented and you'll fall behind but change shouldn't be done just for the sake of appearing to do something.

 

[YoRUsh]

The viewers' entertainment is merely a side-effect of the athletes trying to win in professional sports.

And the fact that they can focus on their sport as professional athletes comes from the money that sponsors put in, because people watch it for entertainment...Bit of an chicken/egg kind of thing

 

[Ferminal]

rofl Sherwen "Kyle Badri"

 

[sportzchick]

do you remember the 'entertaining' rider or the winner of the tour de france?????

 

[YoRUsh]

Do you watch the sport for your entertainment or because you want to know who the winner is?
Of course you remember who the winner is, but also the entertaining riders, everytime Hoogerland or De Gendt is at the front, you have people on this board cheering for them. A lot more then when Cav wins a stage...

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

the decorations are the most entertaining aspect of this stage.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I'd love to see these five just hold on and Hoogerland win the stage - it won't happen, but it would be sweet if....

 

[Jeanne]

do you remember the 'entertaining' rider or the winner of the tour de france?????

depends on the case

 

[just some guy]

the decorations are the most entertaining aspect of this stage.

Counting Harmens mistakes can be a good way to pass the day.