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I'm dutch, but I never heard of him before as well.
Aparently he still was an electricity mechanic last year. wtf?
http://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/30087/weekendinterview-peter-koning.html
Valv.Piti said:
I'm dutch, but I never heard of him before as well.
Aparently he still was an electricity mechanic last year. wtf?
http://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/30087/weekendinterview-peter-koning.html
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They are like the Gracies.
There are four brothers, who are all cyclists. Roberto, Maximiliano, Mauro and Adrián. And their dad Omar was also a cyclist back in the 80ies.
Lexman said:
They are like the Gracies.
There are four brothers, who are all cyclists. Roberto, Maximiliano, Mauro and Adrián. And their dad Omar was also a cyclist back in the 80ies.
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I don't get the Talansky hate, nobody is claiming that he's a potential gt winner, but he has panache, is a great descender has two top ten results in gts, podiums in Romandie and Paris-Nice and his Dauphiné win from the big breakaway on the final stage, he's a good rider and I've always liked him. Ok, he tends to crash a little bit too often and I'd probably also choose to support Rolland.
Back to San Luis, I'm impressed by Gaviria and it's nice to see Matej Mohoric in the main group.
Back to San Luis, I'm impressed by Gaviria and it's nice to see Matej Mohoric in the main group.
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I think you should direct that question to the first poster who wrote that Talansky was behind. I guess he wasnt then
The fact that he indeed arrived in the front group doesnt really change the narrative, Im not a big fan of Talansky at all and would be very surprised to see him do well in the Tour.
Escarabajo said:
I think you should direct that question to the first poster who wrote that Talansky was behind. I guess he wasnt then
The fact that he indeed arrived in the front group doesnt really change the narrative, Im not a big fan of Talansky at all and would be very surprised to see him do well in the Tour.
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Poor picture quality
No time splits
Never saw a results figure on the screen
Come on San Luis, get it together!
No time splits
Never saw a results figure on the screen
Come on San Luis, get it together!
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I dunno, I think that 'most overrated cyclists' statement is a little harsh. i mean, isn't he like 27? And so far in his career, he's been wildly inconsistent. But -
- he was the only rider who looked remotely near Nairo's level in that year of Avenir (which of course doesn't translate directly to fully-grown talent, but still means something is there)
- he had a top 10 Vuelta
- he finished second to Wiggins in Romandie in Wiggins' invincible year
- he finished top 10 Tour (with a breakaway for help)
- he won the Dauphine over 2014 level Contador (who was too preoccupied with Froome, but still) by taking initiative and attacking from distance.
Just going from memory here so I don't know if that's correct to the letter and if I'm forgetting anything, but for a guy who's 27 that's enough reason for me to appreciate the occasional flash of panache (and to be frustrated it doesn't come out more), and to think that it's far to early to close the book on him as a talent.
Then again he's in my CQ team so maybe I'm biased
Valv.Piti said:
I dunno, I think that 'most overrated cyclists' statement is a little harsh. i mean, isn't he like 27? And so far in his career, he's been wildly inconsistent. But -
- he was the only rider who looked remotely near Nairo's level in that year of Avenir (which of course doesn't translate directly to fully-grown talent, but still means something is there)
- he had a top 10 Vuelta
- he finished second to Wiggins in Romandie in Wiggins' invincible year
- he finished top 10 Tour (with a breakaway for help)
- he won the Dauphine over 2014 level Contador (who was too preoccupied with Froome, but still) by taking initiative and attacking from distance.
Just going from memory here so I don't know if that's correct to the letter and if I'm forgetting anything, but for a guy who's 27 that's enough reason for me to appreciate the occasional flash of panache (and to be frustrated it doesn't come out more), and to think that it's far to early to close the book on him as a talent.
Then again he's in my CQ team so maybe I'm biased
I can't see how Talansky can be anywhere near being the most overrated rider. Nobody hypes him for GT wins, even podiums in any big races. And in the group of riders who are not hyped for those kind of results, his palmares are among the best.
- He finished 7th in Vuelta as an u-25 rider despite no support from his team, TTT loses etc. Consistently among 5-6 best climbers in the last week.
- He finished 10th in the Tour as an u-25 rider. He gained time through breakaway, but again, he was definetely among top10 climbers in the last week again.
- He won Dauphine thanks to the breakaway, but even without this breakaway his performance was impressive, top3 climber in the race and quite close to Contador.
- He has proven he is definetely a top3 material in the biggest one-week races. Apart from his Dauphine win, he has 2nd places in Paris-Nice (with stage win) and Romandie. In 2012 Romandie he was closer to beat Wiggins in ITT than any other rider in the whole season in any other ITT that was longer than 10 kms/
There are riders out there who, unlike Talansky, are hyped as future GT or monument winners and who will never eclipse his achievements, I'm sure. There's little merit in calling Talansky one of the most overrated riders IMO.
- He finished 7th in Vuelta as an u-25 rider despite no support from his team, TTT loses etc. Consistently among 5-6 best climbers in the last week.
- He finished 10th in the Tour as an u-25 rider. He gained time through breakaway, but again, he was definetely among top10 climbers in the last week again.
- He won Dauphine thanks to the breakaway, but even without this breakaway his performance was impressive, top3 climber in the race and quite close to Contador.
- He has proven he is definetely a top3 material in the biggest one-week races. Apart from his Dauphine win, he has 2nd places in Paris-Nice (with stage win) and Romandie. In 2012 Romandie he was closer to beat Wiggins in ITT than any other rider in the whole season in any other ITT that was longer than 10 kms/
There are riders out there who, unlike Talansky, are hyped as future GT or monument winners and who will never eclipse his achievements, I'm sure. There's little merit in calling Talansky one of the most overrated riders IMO.
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He has been hyped the two last seasons to top-10, even top-5 in the Tour which he hasnt even come close to both times. I know there are other races, but its the big one and its there where Talansky and all the other big guns aim to peak. I havent said it in here, but I have ALWAYS opposed that Talansky was a legit GC rider for the Tour and I think Garmin has done that as well by now. To me, he just doesnt seem to have that elite level to climb with the best, or even second best, when everyone is at 100%. He is a good rider in one week stage races, that I agree with, but I have always seen Dan Martin with the much higher ceiling GC-wise despite him crashing at every second race.
Maybe Im a little harsh on Talansky, but thats just how I feel.
Maybe Im a little harsh on Talansky, but thats just how I feel.
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I could not agree with this more. Talansky is a rider who gets the backlash from being hyped without actually being hyped in the first place. Where he will end up as a rider is not clear at all, but at worst he's pretty decent and, unlike most riders of that sort he has big wins that come from adventurous, attacking, riding. There are so many riders who might or might not kick on from being decent who ride conservatively that I just can't understand people who dislike Talansky. The dude fights for it, and as a fan that's what I want from a rider, whether he's great, good, ok, bad or terrible. Which is even more notable when you consider that he has the archetypal "boring rider" talent spread, a GC man who is a better TT rider than climber.
I like Talansky and I genuinely think that if most fans thought about it they'd like him too.
Anderis said:
I could not agree with this more. Talansky is a rider who gets the backlash from being hyped without actually being hyped in the first place. Where he will end up as a rider is not clear at all, but at worst he's pretty decent and, unlike most riders of that sort he has big wins that come from adventurous, attacking, riding. There are so many riders who might or might not kick on from being decent who ride conservatively that I just can't understand people who dislike Talansky. The dude fights for it, and as a fan that's what I want from a rider, whether he's great, good, ok, bad or terrible. Which is even more notable when you consider that he has the archetypal "boring rider" talent spread, a GC man who is a better TT rider than climber.
I like Talansky and I genuinely think that if most fans thought about it they'd like him too.
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So tomorrow we have the clash of Colombians?
Lopez, Quintana, Contreras, Torres, Acevedo.
For the rest of the world we have Nibali, Talansky, Dani Diaz,Vuillermoz, Majka.
Lopez, Quintana, Contreras, Torres, Acevedo.
For the rest of the world we have Nibali, Talansky, Dani Diaz,Vuillermoz, Majka.
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