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Logic-is-your-friend said:
Of course not. Kelderman isn't Pogacar, he was only 15 seconds ahead of Uijtdebroeks in GC. Tulett could have waited/worked only after the car called that Kelderman was physically ok and that his bike was ok or after he had a new bike. If Kelderman were to have issues due to the impact, you just would have forfeited your other GC rider for no good reason and be left with nothing. Having Tulett stay with Uijtdebroeks as long as possible, and then drop back and do one long pull for Kelderman would have been the best and most logical call.
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They abandoned their best rider (who was still the strongest uphill after his crash) who was placed higher in GC worse than Vlasov did in the Vuelta last year. I hope Wilco don't feel bullied!
 
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Netserk said:
They abandoned their best rider (who was still the strongest uphill after his crash) who was placed higher in GC worse than Vlasov did in the Vuelta last year. I hope Wilco don't feel bullied!
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Those aren't comparable.
Vlasov and a teammate, actively attacked their own teammate, because that was the only position Vlasov could realistically have overtaken at that point.
Here Uijtdebroeks didn't actively or purposely make Kelderman crash. Furthermore, like i already pointed out, there is no way to predict what the impact of the crash would be for Kelderman, who doesn't need much to break in half, and it would be stupid to sacrifice your 2nd GC rider who is only 15s behind in GC. Have Tulett stick with Uijtdebroeks and then fall back to pull for Kelderman is what would make most sense in that scenario.
 
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Kelderman is the only one on the team with the legs to finish on the podium, yet they abandoned him at the first opportunity. Blobloblo kept riding for his own GC after he was dropped and Kelderman was catching up fast. Ridiculous, what a selfish rider.
 
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Netserk said:
Kelderman is the only one on the team with the legs to finish on the podium, yet they abandoned him at the first opportunity. Blobloblo kept riding for his own GC after he was dropped and Kelderman was catching up fast. Ridiculous, what a selfish rider.
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Kelderman catching up fast is quite meaningless though. Impossible to predict or assess whether he was actually completely fine and that strong (ignoring he could ride his own pace, while Blobloblo had to react to multiple accelerations), or whether he was riding on adrenalin and would possibly implode later. Or whether the crash could see its impact tomorrow or the day after. Sorry, no sane DS was going to make the call for Uijtdebroeks to fall back for Wilco Kelderman.
 
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Samu Cuenca

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Salvarani said:
I think this is perfectly on par for Mas in this race.

He usually only gets better during a GT and an unipuerto in the beginning of a race like this is probably not what suits him the most.
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Sure, it isn't a particular bad result fyhim, and he might also become stronger later in the race. It's just that Romo and Lazkano's performances in Dauphiné raised the expectations, and I would also like to see Mas back at his absolute best/a whole new level.
 
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Earns1985 said:
His Team said on X, that he crashed?
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I really hope that EF does not ride for a GC result from Carapaz. There is nothing in his recent past that suggests he could challenge for a podium spot. I hope he ships a ton of time in week one and then goes on multiple mountain raids in the later stages. A stage win or two in high mountain stages is worth far more to sponsors than an invisible top 10, 20 minutes off the podium. Shunning GC will also free up Bettiol, Powless, and Van den berg to stage hunt as well.
 
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tobydawq said:
What a ludicrous overestimation of Kelderman, lol.
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That's not even the biggest issue, even if he -in case everything goes his way- is capable of riding top 3 ahead of Uijtdebroeks. What if tomorrow Kelderman says he didn't have a good night's sleep because of the crash, or even feels stiffness due to what happened today. Boom, he loses 5 minutes and there goes your genius plan.

If Kelderman were Pogacar and you have a 100% chance to win in case he reaches the finish, then sure.
 
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triley36 said:
I really hope that EF does not ride for a GC result from Carapaz. There is nothing in his recent past that suggests he could challenge for a podium spot. I hope he ships a ton of time in week one and then goes on multiple mountain raids in the later stages. A stage win or two in high mountain stages is worth far more to sponsors than an invisible top 10, 20 minutes off the podium. Shunning GC will also free up Bettiol, Powless, and Van den berg to stage hunt as well.
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There are a few other riders who will go stage hunting in high mountain stages.
 
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