Tour of Pologne 2015(2.UWT) 2-8.08

[alspacka]

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Lampre has been putting three sprinters in the mix. None will win. Because when the final 100m come it's free for all. That team is clueless.

It's frustrating I'd imagine for the DS because remember the Giro? The train worked amazingly very time, Max-Ferrari-Modolo worked great together and delivered him 2 stage wins. Maybe Ferrari isn't used to leading out Bonifazio, who isn't used to leading out anyone other than Cimolai, mainly because he is usually the main man anyway. Bonifazio will never win a sprint anyway here. As I said previously pn this forum, he isn't a pure sprinter. He is more suited to a hard stage which is long. He came 5th at MSR, which shows really strong stamina for a 21 year old. Italy should bring him to the Worlds, for experience more than anything else, but also because he is a fierce competitor after 250km. He is Italy's Freire, if you ask me.

Nice post. I'm interested to see how he develops. You think he will be at Lampre for the long haul?

 

[Brullnux]

Probably not, but until he is 25 I think so. Staying at an Italian team is better for him, even if it is a team with a history of butchering good talent. Then he'll leave for a bigger team with a stronger classics set-up. Maybe Etixx, but more likely he'll go to Katusha and be Kristoff's equal but also understudy and learn from him while slowly taking up the leadership. He is a better role model than Pippo if you ask me. Maybe a new team will pop up and he'll go there, maybe join someone like Sagan too.

 

[May0maniac]

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Lampre has been putting three sprinters in the mix. None will win. Because when the final 100m come it's free for all. That team is clueless.

It's frustrating I'd imagine for the DS because remember the Giro? The train worked amazingly very time, Max-Ferrari-Modolo worked great together and delivered him 2 stage wins. Maybe Ferrari isn't used to leading out Bonifazio, who isn't used to leading out anyone other than Cimolai, mainly because he is usually the main man anyway. Bonifazio will never win a sprint anyway here. As I said previously pn this forum, he isn't a pure sprinter. He is more suited to a hard stage which is long. He came 5th at MSR, which shows really strong stamina for a 21 year old. Italy should bring him to the Worlds, for experience more than anything else, but also because he is a fierce competitor after 250km. He is Italy's Freire, if you ask me.

Nice post. I'm interested to see how he develops. You think he will be at Lampre for the long haul?

I've heard that Trek want to sign him, mybe it's just a rumour.
If I remember things correctly Bonifazio is the rider who traveled to Belgium with a friend to train on the cobbles for a few months, as far as I remember they lived in a small camper durning that time, when he was still an amateur.
There was a story about it in La Gazzetta last year because he was the youngest rider to compete in the 2014 RVV.

 

[Sasquatch]

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Lampre has been putting three sprinters in the mix. None will win. Because when the final 100m come it's free for all. That team is clueless.

It's frustrating I'd imagine for the DS because remember the Giro? The train worked amazingly very time, Max-Ferrari-Modolo worked great together and delivered him 2 stage wins. Maybe Ferrari isn't used to leading out Bonifazio, who isn't used to leading out anyone other than Cimolai, mainly because he is usually the main man anyway. Bonifazio will never win a sprint anyway here. As I said previously pn this forum, he isn't a pure sprinter. He is more suited to a hard stage which is long. He came 5th at MSR, which shows really strong stamina for a 21 year old. Italy should bring him to the Worlds, for experience more than anything else, but also because he is a fierce competitor after 250km. He is Italy's Freire, if you ask me.

Stage 4 helps him. Hard stage with climbs and long. He will be one of the sprinters guaranteed to survive.

 

[markjohnconley]

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Lampre caused crash, went across Ewan[/quote]

They're in front. They can take the shortest line[/quote]

Where did you do your racing, "Dodgem Derby"?

 

[Brullnux]

How well can Ewan handle dem uppy downy bits? Because Kittel+Pelucchi will get dropped today, barring really slow tempo, and Van Asbroeck+Nizzolo might be on the limit here. Bonifazio should get over them and Meersman will also. Lobato's form is about as volatile as McEnroe's temper. Mezgec might be the one here actually.

Today will be Moser's re-awakening. He'll come 8th.
Mezgec, Bonifazio, Meersman top 3. Kwiat 6th after leading out Mezgec by accident.

 

[TMP402]

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How well can Ewan handle dem uppy downy bits? Because Kittel+Pelucchi will get dropped today, barring really slow tempo, and Van Asbroeck+Nizzolo might be on the limit here. Bonifazio should get over them and Meersman will also. Lobato's form is about as volatile as McEnroe's temper. Mezgec might be the one here actually.

Today will be Moser's re-awakening. He'll come 8th.
Mezgec, Bonifazio, Meersman top 3. Kwiat 6th after leading out Mezgec by accident.

Another top 10 for Puccio? Finished 7th and 11th the last two stages. I guess Sky are giving him a chance to sprint, which is good because we still don't really know what his best role is.

 

[wirral]

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Lampre has been putting three sprinters in the mix. None will win. Because when the final 100m come it's free for all. That team is clueless.

Yes, I noticed that too. I am guessing it is sort of a "chaos tactic". The DS tells them to go out and chaotically dart around and then go like mad for the line and in a scattergun approach, one may cross the line first. This could represent the future of sprinting.

 

[Arredondo]

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Fastest sprinter in the world?

I'm saying it without that emoticon. He's surely as fast as Kittel, Greipel and Cav. He just doesn't have the endurance or climbing abilities to fight for stage wins in GT's..... in the past.

If he progresses, he will be a better rider overall, and also challenge the likes of Kittel in GT's. If you just look at top speed, he's perhaps the fastest sprinter on the planet.

I feel like you're giving him way too much credit. Put him in that 3 way sprint on the Champs from a couple years back and I bet he's way off the back. And what have we seen from him that suggests he'll better overall than those three? At this point, I haven't seen anything from him to suggest he'll be any better than the 8-10 other 2nd and 3rd tier Italian sprinters out there.

Guys like Nizzolo, Belletti, Ferrari (which i think you mean with 2nd and 3rd tier sprinters) never beated the top guys like Greipel, Kittel, Cav etc. multiple times (Ferrari only once in the Giro). Pelucchi did it in Tirreno, Pologne, Mallorca. Not many guys can do that.

I'm not saying he will be better then guys like Kittel and Greipel, but only that he should be able to challenge those top guys in the future. If he can create a bigger engine, to handle tougher routes better and starting the sprint fresher. And if he can get a train similiar to Lotto or Giant, he will surely be up there.

 

[Brullnux]

Bonifazio, Kittel dropped. Wasn't expecting that.

 

[TMP402]

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How well can Ewan handle dem uppy downy bits? Because Kittel+Pelucchi will get dropped today, barring really slow tempo, and Van Asbroeck+Nizzolo might be on the limit here. Bonifazio should get over them and Meersman will also. Lobato's form is about as volatile as McEnroe's temper. Mezgec might be the one here actually.

Today will be Moser's re-awakening. He'll come 8th.
Mezgec, Bonifazio, Meersman top 3. Kwiat 6th after leading out Mezgec by accident.

Bonifazio has actually been distanced on the climb and is now in the same group as Kittel.

 

[Brullnux]

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How well can Ewan handle dem uppy downy bits? Because Kittel+Pelucchi will get dropped today, barring really slow tempo, and Van Asbroeck+Nizzolo might be on the limit here. Bonifazio should get over them and Meersman will also. Lobato's form is about as volatile as McEnroe's temper. Mezgec might be the one here actually.

Today will be Moser's re-awakening. He'll come 8th.
Mezgec, Bonifazio, Meersman top 3. Kwiat 6th after leading out Mezgec by accident.

Bonifazio has actually been distanced on the climb and is now in the same group as Kittel.

I know. completely misjudged his talents. I was completely wrong. Thank god I'm not a bookie.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Looked like Meersman, Kiryienka and Intxausti were also in the Kittel group

 

[TMP402]

Whereas Pelucchi, Modolo and Ewan are all in the front group.

 

[Brullnux]

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Whereas Pelucchi, Modolo and Ewan are all in the front group.

I give up on predicting. Never again .

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Damp roads. One of the three out front should win

 

[TMP402]

Orica burning their matches too quickly again.

 

[Billie]

Nice Bodnar!

 

[Eyeballs Out]

What a hotly contested finish that was

 

[Happy dude]

All of those sprinters teams not trying to win just trying to make others lose, quite pathetic imo

 

[BlackWhiteEagle]

YESSSS! Win for Wrocław!!!

 

[Jagartrott]

God, what a boring race.

 

[argyllflyer]

This Race of the Inflatables needs a pin in it.

 

[dpm1991]

So today Bodnar wins... wait... WHO!?!?! And i didn't watched the stage... WHY I DIDN'T WHATCHED THE STAGE!!? I just gave up on watching the TdP stages that are not signed by Zakopane & Bukowina as they are completly boring just to find out that Bodnar won from a breakaway with Zielinski taking the yellow... please, don't let me disturb you, as i will hang myself right now...

 

[damian13ster]

Always a good day when the breakaway wins after 220km attack.
Now the real racing will finally begin. Next 3 stages will be fun