Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[hrotha]

Another victim of the Cervélo syndrome. How surprising.

 

[Sylvester]

After the official announcement of Bigmat as cosponsor for FdJ, 3 new signings : Rasch, David Boucher and Jussi Veikkanen.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-transfert-rasch-et-veikkanen-signent-a-la-fdj-bigmat-20792.html

Madiot clearly doesn't feel the need to strengthen his team for the World Tour.

 

[ingsve]

Madiot clearly doesn't feel the need to strengthen his team for the World Tour.

FDJ isn't really a team that recruits star riders. They focus more on developing young talent so with that in mind they already have the riders they want to focus on in the WT and what they get from elsewhere are experienced helpers that can do an honest days work without standing in the way of their own talents they are producing. Both Rasch and Veikkanen fit that description pretty well I would think. They may not be superdomestique or any thing like that but then again FDJ isn't in the top echelon of WT teams either so they should fill the needs FDJ has at least.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

rebellin and mizourov will go ride in iran next year it seems

 

[ingsve]

rebellin and mizourov will go ride in iran next year it seems

That's intersting. Not those perticular riders per se but given how riders like Sohrabi and Mizbani has gotten the chance due to Asia Tour points perhaps more european riders see riding for asian teams as a way of taking the stop from conti level to the WT in the future.

 

[will10]

That's intersting. Not those perticular riders per se but given how riders like Sohrabi and Mizbani has gotten the chance due to Asia Tour points perhaps more european riders see riding for asian teams as a way of taking the stop from conti level to the WT in the future.

Took the words right out of my mouth On this level the UCI Globalisation plan definitely works, just needs tweaking in terms of domestiques' points.

 

[jens_attacks]

nuno ribeiro back in the business!we'll see him in volta a portugal leading the team with the other ribeiro,sergio.hopefully they will also have a place for grande isidro nozal.

i think this is an end of career for santi perez,him also being caught from what i've heard in an asturias test.i hope i'm wrong and he will continue.

 

[will10]

Blimey that's a blast from the past, is Nozal still riding?

 

[roundabout]

His ban is over now.

 

[Michele]

rebellin and mizourov will go ride in iran next year it seems

Seems there wont be iranian team with Rebellin/Mizourov.

 

[Fus087]

Seems there wont be iranian team with Rebellin/Mizourov.

What exactly is he saying there? Tabriz Petrochemical is closing down?

 

[Eric8-A]

rebellin and mizourov will go ride in iran next year it seems

I thought Rebellin was going to Katusha

 

[Michele]

What exactly is he saying there? Tabriz Petrochemical is closing down?

I donno the language myself, but a friend translated for me and roughly it says something like that Tabriz was involved as sponsor for this project but for some political (religious?) reasons they said no at the end (one of the reasons seems to be like iranian riders celebrating with champagne...?).

 

[ingsve]

Took the words right out of my mouth On this level the UCI Globalisation plan definitely works, just needs tweaking in terms of domestiques' points.

I'm guessing the domestique issue is just a matter of time. They've already begun to adress it with giving the team extra points for defending jersey's in the GTs so there is already some precedence for giving points to other than the single rider (in that case the team itself rather than the individual rider who had the jersey.) The step isn't too far to also give the individual domestiques a few points in certain situations.

The problem is how to do it practically. You can't really have an individual evaluation of what each domestique did in a race. One way could be to give e.g. 1 point to every member of the team when one of the riders wins a stage. This could get a little odd if a rider wins from a solo break or something but I think it's hard for the rules to make any distinction between wins.

 

[just some guy]

I'm guessing the domestique issue is just a matter of time. They've already begun to adress it with giving the team extra points for defending jersey's in the GTs so there is already some precedence for giving points to other than the single rider (in that case the team itself rather than the individual rider who had the jersey.) The step isn't too far to also give the individual domestiques a few points in certain situations.

The problem is how to do it practically. You can't really have an individual evaluation of what each domestique did in a race. One way could be to give e.g. 1 point to every member of the team when one of the riders wins a stage. This could get a little odd if a rider wins from a solo break or something but I think it's hard for the rules to make any distinction between wins.

or maybe some points to a team tally and some to the other team members -how it would work no idea

 

[ISDfan]

I thought Rebellin was going to Katusha

Rebellin must go to Lampre-ISD . We need someone for a classic races . Cunego is useless . And Rebellin's results shows that he is quite good .

 

[Kvinto]

Rebellin must go to Lampre-ISD . We need someone for a classic races . Cunego is useless . And Rebellin's results shows that he is quite good .

and quite old as well

 

[Fester]

or maybe some points to a team tally and some to the other team members -how it would work no idea

I've always thought that points should be like prize money: distributed among a team how they see fit (evenly among all for the whole season, evenly among those attending the race, winner takes all, etc...). I think that woud provide a true reflection of work in the peloton.

 

[will10]

Reducing the number of riders who's points count to 10. Leaves 20 spots for riders regardless of how many points they've scored, then it's up to the teams to pick domestiques rather than sub-top leaders who scored a handful of points.

 

[ISDfan]

and quite old as well

Is it so important when he shows that he still have what it takes in order to win races ?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yea davide at lampre could be fun

 

[Kvinto]

Is it so important when he shows that he still have what it takes in order to win races ?

Yes, it is.

You're trying to compare him to Cunego saying that Cunego is useless in classic races but Rebellin 2011 was quite good in Italian home races (with Miche he couldn't get invited for something bigger) and you never know how would he perform at Ardennes (i suppose if he's going to Lampre he is expected to win something bigger than Tre Valli Varesine or Trofeo Melinda, isn't he?) with much bigger level of competition in 41. And tbh if Cunego (who had pretty good year too, but participating in definitely bigger races) was supposed to ride only Italian home races (1.1, 1.HC) he would have achieved these quite good results too, even considering that he can't count on his sprint anymore.

 

[roundabout]

I don't like the man but this was a good result for 40 and being away for 2 years

http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=21123

Apart from the usual reservations I do believe that Rebellin has it in him to ride WT.

That's why I'm a bit puzzled that he is going to Iran.

 

[Kvinto]

4th in Emilia is definitely good result but this is the race that suits him best and tbh the Emilia competition is not the same as the FW competition (if we're talking about the races that suit him). I don't object the possibility that he could do well in WT in 41 but i doubt his 2011 results are good signs of how he can race in WT events next year.

 

[jens_attacks]

That's why I'm a bit puzzled that he is going to Iran.

he won't ride world tour or androni till he gives a public apology in the front of the kids and some fucced up catholic priest that he was indeed a terrible person,a doper scum.everyone knows it,uci won't let him race untill the humiliation thing just like what they did to il killer.that's what you get when the fans choose to be blinded and lied by omerta every day instead of being open minded and accept it.
rebellin can do something in ardennes or giro i'm sure