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Lotto-Soudal confirm Marczynski extends for three more years.

Bora confirm that Grosschartner is the last man on their roster for 2018. 4 in: Grosschartner, Formolo, Kennaugh and Oss means 4 out: Jose Mendes, Silvio Herklotz, Shane Archbold and Jan Barta.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Amaro to CCC is great, that probably means we will get to see him in the Giro if RCS goes with Gazprom + CCC again. If you can follow Alarcón you can follow everyone!

I'm almost sure that Israel Cycling Academy is confirmed at the Giro. Starting there and with the investment they have made on their squad (Hermans and Plaza, mostly), I don't see them being left out. As I don't see RCS excluding three of the 4 italian proconti squads (as Androni will be in too, after winning the Coppa Italia), the last spot should be between Gazprom and RusVelo. Maybe none of them if they invite again 3 italian teams.
 
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JoeD1997 said:
Bora confirm that Grosschartner is the last man on their roster for 2018. 4 in: Grosschartner, Formolo, Kennaugh and Oss means 4 out: Jose Mendes, Silvio Herklotz, Shane Archbold and Jan Barta.
So only Oss (great as he is) for additional support for Sagan. A shame they couldn't get one of the two Greg got (Bettiol and Roelandts) or van Baarle. Peter needs a lieutenant deep in the races to chase or launch him.
 
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Netserk said:
JoeD1997 said:
Bora confirm that Grosschartner is the last man on their roster for 2018. 4 in: Grosschartner, Formolo, Kennaugh and Oss means 4 out: Jose Mendes, Silvio Herklotz, Shane Archbold and Jan Barta.
So only Oss (great as he is) for additional support for Sagan. A shame they couldn't get one of the two Greg got (Bettiol and Roelandts) or van Baarle. Peter needs a lieutenant deep in the races to chase or launch him.
Isnt that exactly what Oss is tho? It doesn't get much better than what he did in Roubaix. And if Postlberger can continue doing well on the cobbles its a very decent squad.

Formolo, Gross and Kennaugh are all good riders, Formolo can be a good top-5 guy in the Giro.
 
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JoeD1997 said:
Lotto-Soudal confirm Marczynski extends for three more years.

Bora confirm that Grosschartner is the last man on their roster for 2018. 4 in: Grosschartner, Formolo, Kennaugh and Oss means 4 out: Jose Mendes, Silvio Herklotz, Shane Archbold and Jan Barta.

Herklotz is following Caja Rural on Instagram since Yesterday, maybe there is something going on :razz:
Other than that I could imagine Barta going to CCC and Mendes back to the Portuguese Scene?
And Oss will probably be a really good signing for Sagan. With him and Burghardt, who had a really strong season but often mechanicals at the wrong time in the classics, he should have good lieutenants in the deep end of the race. Plus Pöstlberger who is developing nicely.
 
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JoeD1997 said:
Lotto-Soudal confirm Marczynski extends for three more years.

Bora confirm that Grosschartner is the last man on their roster for 2018. 4 in: Grosschartner, Formolo, Kennaugh and Oss means 4 out: Jose Mendes, Silvio Herklotz, Shane Archbold and Jan Barta.
All in all a huge improhement. I agree though that instead of 3 climbers and one classics guy it should rather have been the other way around considering Sagan is their most important rider who drastically lacks support. Oss helps, but he alone doesn't make bora a good support squad for classics
 
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Gigs_98 said:
JoeD1997 said:
Lotto-Soudal confirm Marczynski extends for three more years.

Bora confirm that Grosschartner is the last man on their roster for 2018. 4 in: Grosschartner, Formolo, Kennaugh and Oss means 4 out: Jose Mendes, Silvio Herklotz, Shane Archbold and Jan Barta.
All in all a huge improhement. I agree though that instead of 3 climbers and one classics guy it should rather have been the other way around considering Sagan is their most important rider who drastically lacks support. Oss helps, but he alone doesn't make bora a good support squad for classics

Oss alone doesn't, but Oss, Burghardt and Postlberger is a pretty nice classics no 2, 3 and 4. Bora know what they have in Burghardt and will look at Postlberger's excellent first WT year and be sure he has what it takes. They could spend money to upgrade the lower ranks of the classics squad who aren't expected to be around for the last third of the race, but depth all the way down is more useful to a multi-pronged classics attack (in the Quickstep mold) than it is to a team centred on one absolute leader. For a team that has two basic strategic requirements - one or two strong guys with Sagan late on and one credible threat up the road late on - getting three very good domestiques is the key thing. Sagan will have the best support of his career so far next year, I would guess.
 
Rafael Valls (Lotto-Soudal) joins Movistar for next season.

Valls only raced 39 days this season after fracturing his pelvis in August and was hampered by many injuries over the last 2 years, but still has top 10 results in the GC of both the Tour Down Under and the Dauphiné this year.

Pleasant surprise imo after the market looked somewhat dry regarding quality mountain domestiques.
 
Rafael Valls's agent heard Amaro Antunes had rejected Movistar to go to CCC so called Movistar to offer Valls as an alternative. Movistar were interested.

Rejected Movistar? To go to CCC?
And I thought the transfer window couldn't get any weirder.
 
I can think of at least 3 possible reasons for that:
- Movistar expressed interest when Antunes ALREADY had his contract with CCC in place
- Antunes wants a leadership role
- Maybe CCC just offered more $$$. It has been suggested weeks ago that Movistar might be short on cash to spend on other riders having to pay Valverde, Quintana and Landa.
 
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Anderis said:
I can think of at least 3 possible reasons for that:
- Movistar expressed interest when Antunes ALREADY had his contract with CCC in place
- Antunes wants a leadership role
- Maybe CCC just offered more $$$. It has been suggested weeks ago that Movistar might be short on cash to spend on other riders having to pay Valverde, Quintana and Landa.

In portuguese media he said he was interested in developing as a leader, rather than going WT.

"It is the right step, because getting out of Continental directly to WorldTour is risky and did not want to take that risk. I preferred to stay in the ProContinental, to have a year of adaptation. "
" I had the option to pass WorldTour already, but because I wanted to have some freedom, I preferred to stay in the lower echelon to see if I will be able to develop this leadership role. Accordingly, I shall draw my conclusions at the end of the next season, "

https://www.ojogo.pt/modalidades/ci...a-opcao-de-passar-ja-a-worldtour-8804754.html
 
If CCC have got some kind of assurance from RCS it could make sense; he'd probably be the best climber on their roster, and they'll probably then give him some WT options. The biggest problem is that the Volta clashes with the Tour de Pologne so even if he got to do his home race he mightn't get much support against the August machines. But competing against a lot of top names in races like Croatia, Austria and a few WT races could be useful for him, more useful than being 4th in the Movistar mountain train with all the riders like Rosón, Soler, Carapaz and so on in there ahead of a triple-threat leadership. He'd probably slot in ahead of or around the level of Pedrero, Sepúlveda and de la Parte, but that's going to give him zero freedom for quite some time, a season where the second half of the year is totally leaderless like this season is unlikely, especially if Marc and Richi continue to progress. And you can't exactly use Antunes to break the wind, so he'll only really be of use in the mountains.

He likely has the level to go WT, but for continued development ProConti might be better for him. Caja Rural would have been ideal in all honesty, but I think they're a lot more reluctant to dip their toes into the Portuguese péloton after they got burnt so badly with Alberto Gallego. I thought they might have moved for Valls tbh, but Movistar is a good move for him. He will complement their mountain corps well and likely be a useful domestique, he's very good on tempo climbs. I still think the team is short a couple of rodadores, but not sure who is available who might realistically make the jump. Not many of the riders without contract who fit the bill seem particularly likely. Jan Barta, for example. At the moment, Jasha is the only non-Romance speaker on the team's roster for next year. Lluís Mas would seem ideal, but can they just keep cannibalizing Caja Rural? Samoilau is possible simply because Unzué likes to sign people he already knows, but he's not producing at the level he was before and they were happy to let him go before. Paterski would be better out of CCC's options, but is too valuable to that team and also likely to be able to command more than Movistar would be willing to pay for the role he'd find himself in. I don't see any of the French riders being realistic moves for Abarcá, they're of too much value in the French calendar with its myriad rolling and punchy one-day races. And they've still got to sort out Amador and Bennati, though I've no doubt they'll want both to extend; Bennati is too important a rouleur with his experience, and Amador is an Abarcá lifer like Erviti, Lastras and Gutiérrez. Not to mention that a decision has to be made about Bananito.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
If CCC have got some kind of assurance from RCS it could make sense; he'd probably be the best climber on their roster, and they'll probably then give him some WT options. The biggest problem is that the Volta clashes with the Tour de Pologne so even if he got to do his home race he mightn't get much support against the August machines. But competing against a lot of top names in races like Croatia, Austria and a few WT races could be useful for him, more useful than being 4th in the Movistar mountain train with all the riders like Rosón, Soler, Carapaz and so on in there ahead of a triple-threat leadership. He'd probably slot in ahead of or around the level of Pedrero, Sepúlveda and de la Parte, but that's going to give him zero freedom for quite some time, a season where the second half of the year is totally leaderless like this season is unlikely, especially if Marc and Richi continue to progress. And you can't exactly use Antunes to break the wind, so he'll only really be of use in the mountains.

He likely has the level to go WT, but for continued development ProConti might be better for him. Caja Rural would have been ideal in all honesty, but I think they're a lot more reluctant to dip their toes into the Portuguese péloton after they got burnt so badly with Alberto Gallego. I thought they might have moved for Valls tbh, but Movistar is a good move for him. He will complement their mountain corps well and likely be a useful domestique, he's very good on tempo climbs. I still think the team is short a couple of rodadores, but not sure who is available who might realistically make the jump. Not many of the riders without contract who fit the bill seem particularly likely. Jan Barta, for example. At the moment, Jasha is the only non-Romance speaker on the team's roster for next year. Lluís Mas would seem ideal, but can they just keep cannibalizing Caja Rural? Samoilau is possible simply because Unzué likes to sign people he already knows, but he's not producing at the level he was before and they were happy to let him go before. Paterski would be better out of CCC's options, but is too valuable to that team and also likely to be able to command more than Movistar would be willing to pay for the role he'd find himself in. I don't see any of the French riders being realistic moves for Abarcá, they're of too much value in the French calendar with its myriad rolling and punchy one-day races. And they've still got to sort out Amador and Bennati, though I've no doubt they'll want both to extend; Bennati is too important a rouleur with his experience, and Amador is an Abarcá lifer like Erviti, Lastras and Gutiérrez. Not to mention that a decision has to be made about Bananito.

If Twan Castelijns is truly leaving NL, he'd be pretty good, no? I know his nationality is not the natural fit but nevertheless...
 
Anderis said:
What happened to Mamykin? He had such a good neo-pro season last year that I find it weird for him to end up outside of the WT. Are his injuries from Vuelta's crash so bad that he isn't expected to recover?

Dont know any exact reasons, but due to him being on my cq team this year I followed his results closely, and all year he's been prominently absent from the results. Even when in promising breaks on mountainous stages he was left behind by average climbers, so sadly enough his showing last year might be something to discuss in another subforum. I for one don't think he'll deliver on his promises, but I'd like to be proven wrong.

If Katusha lets go of their supposed right hand to Zaka, I think it's safe to assume he's not about to make a turnaround...