benpounder said:Snake, why did you have to repost the photo?
finally a new page.
Please edit out the photo when quoting in the future...
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benpounder said:Snake, why did you have to repost the photo?
Amsterhammer said:One of the Dutch commentators, ex rider Maarten Ducrot, keeps insisting that with today's technology, they could "shoot' food and drink in containers directly at the rider.
I've heard him say that virtually every day. Incidentally, today he said he'd munch a piece of carpet (off the floor!) if Voeckler managed to stay out front. After the race they said that he would, that they'd film it, and post it tonight.
dimspace said:blimey.. we still going on about this..
ive not been on today, but coming back, it feels like tuesday all over again..
Amsterhammer said:I just won a bet with myself.
Franklin said:Rubbish. utter and complete rubbish.
Melchior Mauri Prat.
Abraham Olano.
And Alberto? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contador#Major_achievements
Note his first wins are... ITT's (and a 2001 ITT title not listed)
On a side note, Perico has beaten Eric breukink in 1988, Laurence Fignon in 1989 and Gregory Lemundo in 1990 in long, flat TT's, so he was at least "rather good" in the TT department...
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf_1978_2005/tdf1988_21.php
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf_1978_2005/tdf1989_5.php
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf_1978_2005/tdf1990_7.php
dadoorsron said:I did forget Pedro Delgado, I thought he was from Columbia not spain. Now you are thinking every other race. I'm just talking Tour De France because that's the topic we are in.
Thoughtforfood said:Mmmmm, like to get me some of that!
Snake8 said:How do you get rid of IT!? Its like stepping in a fresh pile of dog sh!t mixed with gum.
Amsterhammer said:I just won a bet with myself.
Snake8 said:Its not really a bet if you bet yourself. Do you win all the bike races you race against yourself?
Thoughtforfood said:I'll bet she'll be around awhile.......at least I think its a she?
Ugh... every time we clock to the hundredths of a sec... and its still a tie.Snake8 said:Its not really a bet if you bet yourself. Do you win all the bike races you race against yourself?
manmachine said:Why? Because so many inept so-called professionals failed to do recon
and are horrible bike handlers? I s e e...
The TTT was fantastic! Finally, a course that rewards bike handling skills
instead of just riding in a straight line that any trained monkey can do.
P l e a s e...give me a break. These primadonna's must give a big belly laugh to mountain bikers and motorcycle racers...
Pampered roadie 1 to pampered roadie 2- "They expect us to go around corners? On TT's bikes???" "Sacre Bleu! This is an outrage!"
It is great to watch some of the supposed pro riders implode when they are challenged by anything else other than a sprint or a climb. I've got some startling news for the whiners- pro cycling is way more than just being able to go fast and have endurance.
The best descenders and handlers are usually former MTB riders, because they actually understand cornering and the three basic tenants- Steering, Turning and Braking. Implementing these skills takes practice- something which is lost on the majority of the pro peloton.
Only a handful of road riders are good at descending and cornering, while the rest are either too scared or cannot be bothered to learn the acquired skills.
Once again the pampred roadie crowd...crying in their latte's about a course that's too hard....whah....whah....sniff....
Thoughtforfood said:I sure don't...
dgodave said:Ugh... every time we clock to the hundredths of a sec... and its still a tie.
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Futuroscope said:i don't think they should have team TTs in the Grand Tours.
Amsterhammer said:Nobody wants to see crashes and I'm sure the organizers knew exactly how difficult the course was and what the state of the road surfaces was. Clearly, the stretches with 'bad' surface were deliberately included to test the riders. I'd also like to point out that 11 of the 20 teams had at least one rider who fell. That means that nine teams did not fall, which brings me back to my contention that none of the 'better' riders (Menchov doesn't count here) fell, ergo the course was not too difficult.
Snake8 said:C'mon dude. Page 12 of the thread and this is the best you can do? You gonna leave us hanging or are you going to explain that pearl?
Franklin said:You are moving goal posts, but sure. I give you...
Abraham Olano (tdf 1997 for example, but any year 1996-2000 is also "decent")
Mauri Prat 1995 was quite ok in the ITT^^
auscyclefan94 said:I think the course was too difficult because most teams had at least 2 riders drop off the back.
dadoorsron said:I do agree with you on that. however, you are mentioning guys that are good enough to beat a great TT guy on certain days. Even a bad TT guy can beat a great tt Guy if its not his day. Look at 2004 when Ullrich beat lance because he got dehydrated. Even though Ullrich is one of the best tt guys ever in cycling. Lance in 05 passed him in the Opening tt. Passed Basso in the closing tt and he was his two minute man. I think we are spoiled because we have seen some of the greatest performances on tv in the last 20 years and never gotten to see the masters of old.
auscyclefan94 said:The tt course the route organisers made these riders go out on is a bloody disgrace. Surely the organisers have duty of care to not make the course so dangerous. So many riders crashed. I don't think i would ride my bike on that Course.