Tyler Hamilton confessions/accusations

[Anonymous]

All I'm saying is that to the casual observer (those who do not follow cycling and LA that closely) it will look like he's lying through his teeth.

All I'm saying is that only a blind idiot fool could still believe Lance was clean.

 

[Polyarmour]

A. I don't have time to teach you the Federal Rules of Evidence
B. It will take enough to convince a jury. If you can come up with a rubrick or formula as to how to satisfy that little hurdle every time, you will one rich motherf......

Lol, that's a bit of a cop out after telling me I don't understand the law or trials.

Well let me make it even simpler for you. I haven't seen anything yet that would convince a jury that LA is guilty. All the evidence I have seen so far (whether it is true or not) will be refuted by counterclaims that the proponent is either a proven liar or has something to gain by making the allegations.

So since you know more than me, what have I missed? What is the evidence that has been presented so far that will sink Lance?

 

[Altitude]

All I'm saying is that only a blind idiot fool could still believe Lance was clean.

Yeah, who's disputing this?

 

[hfer07]

All I'm saying is that to the casual observer (those who do not follow cycling and LA that closely) it will look like he's lying through his teeth.

 

[Granville57]

He's hestiating because he knows that once he says it on camera there's no turning back. It's a monumental leap of faith off the edge of a very high precipice. I'd hesitate too before saying it.

Exactly.
It's "THE" moment for him. It's also important to understand that this interview took place before Tyler sent the letter out to family and friends, so what we're witnessing is most likely is the very first moment of his very first public confession.

Of course it was difficult, especially after years of lying.

 

[Altitude]

Good one..

 

[Anonymous]

Lol, that's a bit of a cop out after telling me I don't understand the law or trials.

Well let me make it even simpler for you. I haven't seen anything yet that would convince a jury that LA is guilty. All the evidence I have seen so far (whether it is true or not) will be refuted by counterclaims that the proponent is either a proven liar or has something to gain by making the allegations.

So since you know more than me, what have I missed? What is the evidence that has been presented so far that will sink Lance?

If you want to keep looking stupid, feel free...because I am pretty sure the only people who have seen all the evidence are the prosecutors and the grand jury.

As for corroboration, you have no idea what they have to corroborate or who or what is being corroborated. You are whistling in the dark and looking pretty inept doing so. Your obvious lack of understanding of even the most basic aspects of the legal system are glaring. If I were you, I'd just quit, but people like you never do.

As for "copping out"...um, it is costing me over 6 figures to learn stuff like the FRE, so unless you are willing to send me a check, you are going to have to do your own heavy lifting...or keep looking ignorant. That is totally in your court junior.

 

[MarkvW]

Hincapie sure came out strongly in support of Lance today...

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/hincapie-ochowicz-react-to-hamilton-accusations_174673

Thanks for the link. Probably his last season and he wants to avoid unnecessary ruffling of feathers.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the link. Probably his last season and he wants to avoid unnecessary ruffling of feathers.

To me, it reads like a man who in other forums might have spilled the EPO vials.

 

[danjo007]

i found a picture of this forums members...

personally, i dont care otherwise. i have a life.

now that i dont doubt tyler's statements, why do these guys wait the the ToC to grab some limelight? is it because NO ONE otherwise CARES? (apart from members of this forum and minority)

 

[Anonymous]

i found a picture of this forums members...

personally, i dont care otherwise. i have a life.

now that i dont doubt tyler's statements, why do these guys wait the the ToC to grab some limelight? is it because NO ONE otherwise CARES? (apart from members of this forum and minority)

Call me crazy, but I imagine that there will be plenty of people interested in the hero savior of cancer patients everywhere being exposed as the doping fraud that he is. Actually, I have been called crazy for many other things, so don't think you will hurt my feelings.

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

'...'now that i dont doubt tyler's statements, why do these guys wait the the ToC to grab some limelight? is it because NO ONE otherwise CARES? (apart from members of this forum and minority)

60 minutes determined the timing of this spectacle.

 

[Zweistein]

Have you been watching too much "Lie to Me" episodes?

All his response have to be measured carefully. If he says anything contradictory, it will create a lot of headache for himself. I am willing to wager that Lance has made it known he would sue for libel.

 

[Ferminal]

why do these guys wait the the ToC to grab some limelight? is it because NO ONE otherwise CARES? (apart from members of this forum and minority)

It's CBS' fault, they are greedy and trying to make as much money as possible, don't trust such an evil. Meanwhile Lance is training hard for Kona (what happened to that?), helping out his friends and saving the world from cancer.

Not everyone can be as selfless as HWSNBN. And by default, if you say something negative about the man you are evil (at least this is what Fabiani has been getting paid to say?).

 

[hfer07]

i found a picture of this forums members...

personally, i dont care otherwise. i have a life.

now that i dont doubt tyler's statements, why do these guys wait the the ToC to grab some limelight? is it because NO ONE otherwise CARES? (apart from members of this forum and minority)

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

i found a picture of this forums members...

personally, i dont care otherwise. i have a life.

now that i dont doubt tyler's statements, why do these guys wait the the ToC to grab some limelight? is it because NO ONE otherwise CARES? (apart from members of this forum and minority)

Another poster who doesn't care yet feels compelled to inform everyone here of that.

 

[Granville57]

On a side note, I was happy for Horner until I saw this: http://yfrog.com/h099726389j

Well, isn't that cute. The self-appointed dragon slayer ends up on CH's top tube.
Small world after all, huh?

Good find, TFF.

 

[Realist]

i found a picture of this forums members...


personally, i dont care otherwise. i have a life.

now that i dont doubt tyler's statements, why do these guys wait the the ToC to grab some limelight? is it because NO ONE otherwise CARES? (apart from members of this forum and minority)

Let's all take a moment to welcome the great man himself to the forum. Lance, thanks for stopping by (or paying someone to do so). It's a great compliment to us all that you care that much.

 

[Boeing]

Some say bitter? Bitter? sure he is bitter, you would be too

 

[Fatclimber]

All I'm saying is that only a blind idiot fool could still believe Lance was clean.

And all it takes is one or two of those on a jury, odds are in Lance's favor. I was on a jury a few years ago and became awestruck by the sheer stupidity of a substantial portion of the jury. Made me afraid for my life!

 

[Anonymous]

And all it takes is one or two of those on a jury, odds are in Lance's favor. I was on a jury a few years ago and became awestruck by the sheer stupidity of a substantial portion of the jury. Made me afraid for my life!

Yea, I have never denied that.

 

[AussieGoddess]

Hincapie sure came out strongly in support of Lance today...

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/hincapie-ochowicz-react-to-hamilton-accusations_174673

thats not strongly in support. He said 'no comment' ....

 

[yourwelcome]

Let's all take a moment to welcome the great man himself to the forum. Lance, thanks for stopping by (or paying someone to do so). It's a great compliment to us all that you care that much.

That's a pretty deluded thought from a 'realist'

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

thats not strongly in support. He said 'no comment' ....

Your sarcasm detector is off.

 

[Polyarmour]

If you want to keep looking stupid, feel free...because I am pretty sure the only people who have seen all the evidence are the prosecutors and the grand jury.

As for corroboration, you have no idea what they have to corroborate or who or what is being corroborated. You are whistling in the dark and looking pretty inept doing so. Your obvious lack of understanding of even the most basic aspects of the legal system are glaring. If I were you, I'd just quit, but people like you never do.

As for "copping out"...um, it is costing me over 6 figures to learn stuff like the FRE, so unless you are willing to send me a check, you are going to have to do your own heavy lifting...or keep looking ignorant. That is totally in your court junior.

Translation:

"I haven't yet seen any evidence that will convict Lance either."

Thanks mate, reading you loud and clear.