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UCI appeals Contador decision

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moi123 said:
Let me put it like this: is the 'positive' dope test to be trusted? And if we assume it is, then who says it isn't pure coincidence? A 'nothing at all' which has been made BIG for other's and other interests?
I thought we were the ones ruining cycling by letting our imaginations run wild?

edit: haha, CN's piece on Contador avoiding questions is hilarious:
I don’t know much about it because my lawyers are a looking after it all
They're a-lookin' after it all!
 
Wauue, some of you guys a.s.s´s relly hurt a lot about contador and all objective seen gone out the window.

Likely its mainly due to contador is literally kicking some of your favirites riders bu.tt.

Every user in here, can probaly teel them self, that contadors lab-values are being monitored like no ones else, and stilll he is outstanding..

Also been stated lately that there are situation where is has been stated that sportsmen in different sports-events has been tested positive for Glenbu.. alone from eating contaminated food, that is a fact, and likely that WADA will begin to use a min. value for sentence..and why is that ??.

I think its pathetic if ones a.s.s. . is hurting so much about contadors superority, that one is willing to accused a rider for cheating ewen thow that there a big chance that is not the case.

that is truely a pathetic person...

and yeah he is cheating at the moment with some new udectable superdrugs and thats why he is so superior at these weeks, and someday the anti-doping firms will be aware of the new drugs or his competitors will know it and they can also take advantage and then kick his B.U.TT..(your are the laughing stok of your town)

tsk, come´ ridicalus and offcourse will ASO let him event the Tour, otherwise the Tour will be a joke if its all about world nr. 2 etape-rider and the number one in the world with out a doubt is not present.-
 
GroupDK said:
Wauue, some of you guys a.s.s´s relly hurt a lot about contador and all objective seen gone out the window.

Likely its mainly due to contador is literally kicking some of your favirites riders bu.tt.

Every user in here, can probaly teel them self, that contadors lab-values are being monitored like no ones else, and stilll he is outstanding..

Also been stated lately that there are situation where is has been stated that sportsmen in different sports-events has been tested positive for Glenbu.. alone from eating contaminated food, that is a fact, and likely that WADA will begin to use a min. value for sentence..and why is that ??.

I think its pathetic if ones a.s.s. . is hurting so much about contadors superority, that one is willing to accused a rider for cheating ewen thow that there a big chance that is not the case.

that is truely a pathetic person...

and yeah he is cheating at the moment with some new udectable superdrugs and thats why he is so superior at these weeks, and someday the anti-doping firms will be aware of the new drugs or his competitors will know it and they can also take advantage and then kick his B.U.TT..(your are the laughing stok of your town)

tsk, come´ ridicalus and offcourse will ASO let him event the Tour, otherwise the Tour will be a joke if its all about world nr. 2 etape-rider and the number one in the world with out a doubt is not present.-

Totally! Everybody should know AC has LAZER focus on his races AND using a extremely high cadence! No wonder the others can't keep up!:rolleyes:

LMAO at the bolded parts!
 
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GroupDK said:
Wauue, some of you guys a.s.s´s relly hurt a lot about contador and all objective seen gone out the window.

Likely its mainly due to contador is literally kicking some of your favirites riders bu.tt.

Every user in here, can probaly teel them self, that contadors lab-values are being monitored like no ones else, and stilll he is outstanding..

This all sounds so familiar :rolleyes:
 
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Has Contador gone back to Autologous blood doping ?

Just curious whether people here believe that Contador has gone back to blood doping ?

The "plasticizer" test has not been approved, so he can't be sanctioned for testing positive. Still it would be pretty brazen to use something that everyone has a strong suspicion he was using before.

If another "rumour" started that he tested positive for plasticizers at the Giro, or the TDF got out, it would really be taking us all for fools.
 
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Someone may have made this point already but it may be best for ASA to allow Contador to race the Tour. Reason being that if he is subsequently cleared by the CAS (which is quite probable) then anyone else's Tour victory would be grossly devalued through no fault of their own. Lets face it he wouldn't win backing up from the Giro anyway - or if he did it would be another "incredible" performance.
 
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lurveleven said:
positive test and plastiziers as well? it's not evidence because they're dragging their feet on that as well, but if that's not a strong indication i don't know what is.

disgusted..
appalled..
that was for letting him start in the giro, the words for letting him start in tdf haven't been made yet.

bold quote i agree 1000% !

I hope the UCI get their a$$ kicked SOOO hard it makes them get their act together, and put ALL doping matters with a newly created (by WADA) independent panel who have THE FINAL SAY (one appeal only to present further evidence, no need for CAS). National Feds would be out of the picture, and all doping infringements would be treated consistently.
 
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slartiblartfast said:
Someone may have made this point already but it may be best for ASA to allow Contador to race the Tour. Reason being that if he is subsequently cleared by the CAS (which is quite probable) then anyone else's Tour victory would be grossly devalued through no fault of their own. Lets face it he wouldn't win backing up from the Giro anyway - or if he did it would be another "incredible" performance.

I think they would accept it, since Contador has gotten a stab at the Giro. And, and this is a main point, because it's Contadors lawyers and the spanish authoirities who have again and again stalled the case, if he were to be free'd by CAS it could have happened many months ago. But noooooo...

Why is it quite probable that he will be cleared by CAS anyway? Is it because the spanish authorities are so sternly opposed to doping? Mosquera, Valverde.
 
meandmygitane said:
I think they would accept it, since Contador has gotten a stab at the Giro. And, and this is a main point, because it's Contadors lawyers and the spanish authoirities who have again and again stalled the case, if he were to be free'd by CAS it could have happened many months ago. But noooooo...

Why is it quite probable that he will be cleared by CAS anyway? Is it because the spanish authorities are so sternly opposed to doping? Mosquera, Valverde.
What does Mosquera have to do with anything? His case didn't even reach the RFEC until very recently.
 
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inri2000 said:
I think his best chance was last year considering Contador was off his usual form and he had that lead after the cobbles. Who knows what would have happened if Andy hadn't dropped his chain at the worst possible moment?

I know what would have happened...Contador beat Schleck by the exact time gap he gained on the stage Contador attacked the Maillot Jaune (Schleck) while he was having a mechanical.

I would think Contador will win the TDF this year, which is probably a tradgedy as I don't see how he's not banned for his Clen positive.

CAS should not delay the hearing--that's not good for cycling.

Remember that Contador was off form and a little too heavy in the Dauphine in 2010 and lost it to Brakjovic. Clenbuterol is a drug which helps riders shed fat while gaining muscle. Contador miraculously improves his form and drops a little weight just prior to The Tour then tests positive for Clen. Comes up with Steakgate as a defense. Give me a break.

He's a brilliant, talented rider. Perhaps one of the greatest all time (most of the other greatest of all time doped too). I doubt his doping makes the difference between him being a great rider and a couch potato, but I don't doubt he doesn't dope and that others wouldn't have beat him had he not doped in 2010. And, since he got away with it he probably continues to dope.

What a mess.

I know, I know--it's all Lance's fault.
 
Pedaaldanser said:
Wasn't that Antonio Colom?

No, or I think nobody really knows except Ferrari but the Colom story is pretty funny since he wasn't even on the Liberty Seguros squad....AC was. The Colom crap is just made up by hardcore fanboys who can't cope with the fact that AC is no better than the likes of Armstrong and Basso.
 
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Walkman said:
No, or I think nobody really knows except Ferrari but the Colom story is pretty funny since he wasn't even on the Liberty Seguros squad....AC was. The Colom crap is just made up by hardcore fanboys who can't cope with the fact that AC is no better than the likes of Armstrong and Basso.

So the whole OP thing was just riders on Liberty Seguros?
 
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BYOP88 said:
So the whole OP thing was just riders on Liberty Seguros?

No.
The initials AC found in Fuente's documents belonged to a rider from Liberty Seguros.
So it could only have been Dirtie.

Though many riders of of LS were implicated, it was definitely not just about riders of LS.
You do remember why Ulrich is now watching movies on his bench, right?
 
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sniper said:
No.
The initials AC found in Fuente's documents belonged to a rider from Liberty Seguros.
So it could only have been Dirtie.

Though many riders of of LS were implicated, it was definitely not just about riders of LS.
You do remember why Ulrich is now watching movies on his bench, right?

Not too mention Basso having an extended holiday and Frank Schleck donating money to Fuentes for 'blood awareness' or some such:rolleyes:
 
sniper said:
No.
The initials AC found in Fuente's documents belonged to a rider from Liberty Seguros.
So it could only have been Dirtie.

Though many riders of of LS were implicated, it was definitely not just about riders of LS.
You do remember why Ulrich is now watching movies on his bench, right?

Good post, good post indeed.