UCI appeals Contador decision

[LukeSchmid]

This is a total and utter joke. It has always been going to happen before the Tdf and now they want that changed. I hope CAS does not allow it, but if it does why should the other riders and the spectators be forced to accept Contador riding a second GT with him under such a big cloud. It wasn't great having him in the Giro but these things take time and I reluctantly accepted it could hardly be different. That time is now up, it is time for a decision not more racing.

 

[Lanark]

He was suspended from the announcement of the positive in August to whenever RFEC declared him innocent in February.

I've always assumed that those months would be taken away from whatever sanction he gets.

Oh wait, the announcement was in September. 6 months then.

True, those months will always be substrated from a possible future sentence (whatever they decide about his results in the last few months).

 

[Anonymous]

great tactics by berties lawyers.

Rides this years tour de france, then gets banned, serves the remainder of his one year and comes back in time for the 2012 tour de france.

genius

 

[roundabout]

Guaranteed if the hearing takes place after the Tour and Contador wins it he'll get off.

I said it before and I'll say it again-with the Armstrong investigation in full swing, they cannot afford to let Contador sink.

Cycling can't handle both scandals at the same time, and it will mean the winner of three of the last four grand tours will get stripped of his wins.

That's not happening.

For the 'good' of cycling corruption must continue.

Not sure CAS works that way though.

 

[Cimber]

Tbh I dont think Riis is to happy with the postponement. He needs to find a new sponsor but in reality he probably wont be able to sign one till after CAS has made its verdict. So the longer the trial takes the worse for Riis's posibilities to find a new sponsor. And when he dont have a sponsor ready for the Tour he wont be able to sign new riders nor prolong contracts with existing ones. Its really a bad situation for him.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Who knows what CAS may decide - did they not give TV effectively an extended ban? They could turn around and give him the full 2 years as well as stripping him of his results since February.

Either way, this case and the mishandling of it by the UCI/REFC, ASO/RCS along with the Armstrong case is just another black eye for the sport.

It's just embarrassing to being a cycling fan these days.

 

[The Hitch]

He was suspended from August to February.

Imagine if they just let the 1 year ban be. This would all be over in 2 months.

Well that would have been perfect if they hadnt been dicks about it and made it so he misses the Vuelta by 2 days meaning that though the ban ends in theory in August 2011, Contador would in reality only return to the sport in February 2012 so 1 and a half years.

 

[roundabout]

Well that would have been perfect if they hadnt been dicks about it and made it so he misses the Vuelta by 2 days meaning that though the ban ends in theory in August 2011, Contador would in reality only return to the sport in February 2012 so 1 and a half years.

Or on the flip side he 'served' time from end of August to mid February and is now pushing to have the rest of the ban (if he gets one) served after he finished his 2011 season effectively not sitting out any races.

Does that make a ban of zero months 'in reality'?

Boo-hoo, that can't ride the Vuelta, or maybe he can with some more stalling

 

[inri2000]

Tbh I dont think Riis is to happy with the postponement. He needs to find a new sponsor but in reality he probably wont be able to sign one till after CAS has made its verdict. So the longer the trial takes the worse for Riis's posibilities to find a new sponsor. And when he dont have a sponsor ready for the Tour he wont be able to sign new riders nor prolong contracts with existing ones. Its really a bad situation for him.

Riis may lose Saxo Bank but Sungard have a longer contract and they will eventually be the main sponsor

 

[Lanark]

great tactics by berties lawyers.

Rides this years tour de france, then gets banned, serves the remainder of his one year and comes back in time for the 2012 tour de france.

genius

Oh my god, talk about a worst case scenario. Gets banned for 12 months, 6 from the date of the preliminary suspension untill the RFEC decission, and 6 months from after the Tour of this year untill the winter. Effectively a 0-day suspension (well, at least he would still lose the 2010 Tour in that case). I still think it's going to be a 2 year suspension or no suspension at all.

 

[luckyboy]

Or on the flip side he 'served' time from end of August to mid February and is now pushing to have the rest of the ban (if he gets one) served after he finished his 2011 season effectively not sitting out any races.

Does that make a ban of zero months 'in reality'?

Boo-hoo, that can't ride the Vuelta, or maybe he can with some more stalling

It would be pretty hilarious if this ends up being the case.

 

[python]

pls cool down

storm in a tea cup, really…

team contador is simply trying to give wada more time to validate the vaunted plasticizer test to be killed with

but seriously if we analysed calmly the cas process, we’d see:

as scheduled If…..
(i) the parties do not request any extensions of time for the filing of their submissions,
(ii) do not request additional evidentiary measures (i.e. expert's opinion, etc...)
(iii) do not request a second exchange of written submissions and
(iv) are available for a hearing on the day(s) proposed by the CAS

given that cas was confident about the previous hearing date, (i) and (ii) were likely on time and we are probably talking about (iii) because some new evidence is worrying team contador.

for me, there nothing else to read here.

 

[hrotha]

Guaranteed if the hearing takes place after the Tour and Contador wins it he'll get off.

I said it before and I'll say it again-with the Armstrong investigation in full swing, they cannot afford to let Contador sink.

Cycling can't handle both scandals at the same time, and it will mean the winner of three of the last four grand tours will get stripped of his wins.

That's not happening.

I don't see how the two are related until the day all the info they have on Bruyneel is released and we get to hear new and interesting stuff about Astana and Conti. What you've said before and you're saying again is that you don't want Conti to be banned because you have a mancrush on him.

 

[masking_agent]

so i guess he'll be in the Tour thanks to his lawyers. Let's hope we don't have another 2007 on our hands. Too bad for Andy Schleck , he'll have some real competition it appears now? What if Contador is in contention for the tour ? oh boy it'll be interesting to say the least.

 

[Publicus]

I think this was ALWAYS a possibility. Once the UCI and WADA presented their arguments, one would assume that AC's lawyers would need time to address any new information/arguments that were not included in the original dossier delivered to RFEC. Delays in litigation are the norm, not the exception.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Or on the flip side he 'served' time from end of August to mid February and is now pushing to have the rest of the ban (if he gets one) served after he finished his 2011 season effectively not sitting out any races.

Does that make a ban of zero months 'in reality'?

Boo-hoo, that can't ride the Vuelta, or maybe he can with some more stalling

Yes. I am sure that they will find another way to ensure that his ban amounts to no time.

Basically this is like the time DDL got himself banned for the off season.

 

[sniper]

storm in a tea cup, really…
....

refreshing, the new avatar, but more importantly, you make some plausible inferences.

team contador is simply trying to give wada more time to validate the vaunted plasticizer test to be killed with

+1

given that cas was confident about the previous hearing date, (i) and (ii) were likely on time and we are probably talking about (iii) because some new evidence is worrying team contador.

+2. It might indeed be new evidence worrying the AC camp.

 

[roundabout]

Actually to me it looks like (i) occured but I'll happily wait for Vidarte or any other Contador mouthpiece to clarify the reasons.

 

[GroupDK]

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inro2000 ?
Apparantly the hearing has now been postponed to mid July or September due a request from Contador's team to have more time to prepare his defense."
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=13706

what are you talking about ? is it Saxo bank Sungard you refering to..?
do you really think they will take his doping garbage on there shoulders, come on..?
They have for many years been front´runner for there stright doping policy, and was they first team to show there riders values, and used a concept other pro-teams adopted..

do you really think that they will take Contadors garbage from another teamperiod, on there shoulders and on there sponsors shoulders..

Not likely..!!

 

[Marva32]

inro2000 ?
Apparantly the hearing has now been postponed to mid July or September due a request from Contador's team to have more time to prepare his defense."


what are you talking about ? is it Saxo bank Sungard you refering to..?
do you really think they will take his doping garbage on there shoulders, come on..?
They have for many years been front´runner for there stright doping policy, and was they first team to show there riders values, and used a concept other pro-teams adopted..

do you really think that they will take Contadors garbage from another teamperiod, on there shoulders and on there sponsors shoulders..

Not likely..!!

I think they are referring to Contador's legal team, not racing team.

With all of this going on, I don't even know if I care about professional cycling except maybe the local continental stuff.

 

[hfer07]

I honestly have mixed feelings about this postponed appeal- It might help to collect more data from both parties to present their arguments BUT knowing the UCI modus operandi, they surely can keep postponing/dragging this ruling until next year and come up with some ridiculous decision...(not that I want AC to get punished, but I always believe the sooner the ruling is set-god or bad- the better for cycling)

 

[roundabout]

I honestly have mixed feelings about this postponed appeal- It might help to collect more data from both parties to present their arguments BUT knowing the UCI modus operandi, they surely can keep postponing/dragging this ruling until next year and come up with some ridiculous decision...(not that I want AC to get punished, but I always believe the sooner the ruling is set-god or bad- the better for cycling)

1. Contador's side requested to postpone the hearing

2. CAS decides not the UCI

 

[El Imbatido]

I am sure this has already been said but (it is a good one)............They probably want more time so the can beef up his defence

 

[SiAp1984]

Bad news for cycling. ACs lawyers are just trying to gain as many time as possible. I guess they know that their case is a bad joke. Aim obviously is to give AC the chance to start in the Tour.

The ball is in Prudhommes field now. He should show a strong stance and refuse to allow AC - like he did with Vino et al several years before.

If he should miss his chance: At least AS will drop AC on every climb this year...

 

[Walkman]

I honestly have mixed feelings about this postponed appeal- It might help to collect more data from both parties to present their arguments BUT knowing the UCI modus operandi, they surely can keep postponing/dragging this ruling until next year and come up with some ridiculous decision...(not that I want AC to get punished, but I always believe the sooner the ruling is set-god or bad- the better for cycling)

Why not? Do you like dopers or do you really think that he is clean?