UCI helped Froome with illegal(?) TUE at Romandie

[del1962]

Why do you think they gave him the express TUE?

Not sure what this has to do with the UCU giving him (in the mibds of the clinic bots) special protection. (I don't really expect a bot like you to understand it though)

 

[mr. tibbs]

Not sure what this has to do with the UCU giving him (in the mibds of the clinic bots) special protection. (I don't really expect a bot like you to understand it though)

1. Banned substance

2. Taken in a race

3. Emergency TUE required to protect rider who took said substance

4. UCI happy to oblige

I think that's the line of reasoning. Which seems obvious.

Maybe you'd be more comfortable in the Babes on Bikes thread.

 

[del1962]

1. Banned substance

2. Taken in a race

3. Emergency TUE required to protect rider who took said substance

4. UCI happy to oblige

I think that's the line of reasoning. Which seems obvious.

Maybe you'd be more comfortable in the Babes on Bikes thread.

I know this is what the clinic bots think

But that does really fit in with Froomey's gf lambasting the UCI though, the last thing youd want to de is pee of the UCI

 

[mr. tibbs]

I know this is what the clinic bots think

But that does really fit in with Froomey's gf lambasting the UCI though, the last thing youd want to de is pee of the UCI

Ah, ok. Biting the hand that feeds. Now I see your point, your original post was just lost in the shuffle without a quote in it to ground it. Or maybe it's time for ME to head over to Babes on Bikes.

Cond does seem like quite the wildcard, someone who will simply attack at the first sign of any provocation or statement that can be read in a negative light--regardless of what corner it comes from and whether or not it's negative. It baffles me that people with high public profiles not only maintain social media presences, but also insist on making their accounts as highly visible as they can through antics like this.

 

[thehog]

Ah, ok. Biting the hand that feeds. Now I see your point, your original post was just lost in the shuffle without a quote in it to ground it. Or maybe it's time for ME to head over to Babes on Bikes.

Cond does seem like quite the wildcard, someone who will simply attack at the first sign of any provocation or statement that can be read in a negative light--regardless of what corner it comes from and whether or not it's negative. It baffles me that people with high public profiles not only maintain social media presences, but also insist on making their accounts as highly visible as they can through antics like this.

Well the irony which she appears to miss is that it was Froome/Sky who requested the drug. It's wasn't like the UCI forced it upon him!

Of course the UCI were happy to doll out the hall pass because they know Froome is doping but want him racing without raising red flags.

But alas she's blaming the UCI for giving him the permission to abuse horse steroids!

 

[del1962]

Well the irony which she appears to miss is that it was Froome/Sky who requested the drug. It's wasn't like the UCI forced it upon him!

Of course the UCI were happy to doll out the hall pass because they know Froome is doping but want him racing without raising red flags.

But alas she's blaming the UCI for giving him the permission to abuse horse steroids!

Shooting wide of the mark again, your worse than Dick Cheney.

She was complaing about the breach of confidentially (which is against the rules) not the permission for the TUE.

 

[Benotti69]

Shooting wide of the mark again, your worse than Dick Cheney.

She was complaing about the breach of confidentially (which is against the rules) not the permission for the TUE.

She cant complain about people releasing this TUE when they claim he needs it for asthma and there is no mention of asthma in his autobiography.

So is doping and Miss Cound and her groom have no problem with Vino, an unrepentant doper and cheater.......

Ms Cound/Froome want it every which way when it suits.....

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Shooting wide of the mark again, your worse than Dick Cheney.

She was complaing about the breach of confidentially (which is against the rules) not the permission for the TUE.

So happy that Shrooms trouble with breathing was breached.

Everyone needs an inhaler according to these bottle heads that run these teams.

Anyone know what Shrooms V02 scores are?

 

[BYOP88]

She cant complain about people releasing this TUE when they claim he needs it for asthma and there is no mention of asthma in his autobiography.

So is doping and Miss Cound and her groom have no problem with Vino, an unrepentant doper and cheater.......

Ms Cound/Froome want it every which way when it suits.....

Cound has 'blood on her hands'

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Not sure what to say

Everything she tweeted is true, and everything she tweeted is contradictory to what she has been saying.

What has Cookson said that could possibly be interpreted by Cound as a lack of ethics? He responded to Kimmage saying everything was done by the books and WADA approved.

 

[DirtyWorks]

What has Cookson said that could possibly be interpreted by Cound as a lack of ethics? He responded to Kimmage saying everything was done by the books and WADA approved.

It is entirely true that all rules were followed because the sports federation is it's own source of authority.

I'd like to remind readers that the UCI did not follow *suggested* WADA procedure because the TUE wasn't reviewed by committee. A favored rider needing assistance in contravention of WADA proceedure is no problem because WADA has no sanctioning authority for violating their procedures.


This TUE proves:
1. the bio-passport is theater and the UCI treats it as exactly that.
2. UCI favors riders. They have no problem altering the outcome of their races.
3. WADA is powerless to enforce their standards.

 

[thehog]

It is entirely true that all rules were followed because the sports federation is it's own source of authority.

I'd like to remind readers that the UCI did not follow *suggested* WADA procedure because the TUE wasn't reviewed by committee. A favored rider needing assistance in contravention of WADA proceedure is no problem because WADA has no sanctioning authority for violating their procedures.


This TUE proves:
1. the bio-passport is theater and the UCI treats it as exactly that.
2. UCI favors riders. They have no problem altering the outcome of their races.
3. WADA is powerless to enforce their standards.

Yes just like General Pinochet saying "Everything is fine, we followed the rules, nothing to see here, just ask the parliament..... that I own and run"

 

[More Strides than Rides]

It is entirely true that all rules were followed because the sports federation is it's own source of authority.

I'd like to remind readers that the UCI did not follow *suggested* WADA procedure because the TUE wasn't reviewed by committee. A favored rider needing assistance in contravention of WADA proceedure is no problem because WADA has no sanctioning authority for violating their procedures.


This TUE proves:
1. the bio-passport is theater and the UCI treats it as exactly that.
2. UCI favors riders. They have no problem altering the outcome of their races.
3. WADA is powerless to enforce their standards.

My question is about Cound's motives. Why is she biting the hand that feeds, as another poster said.

@inrng linked a doc on twitter that shows the UCI dissolved their own committee in March. I can't get to twitter at work, if anyone wants to link that link...

 

[thehog]

My question is about Cound's motives. Why is she biting the hand that feeds, as another poster said.

@inrng linked a doc on twitter that shows the UCI dissolved their own committee in March. I can't get to twitter at work, if anyone wants to link that link...

This one...

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=OTMzNzI&LangId=1

 

[thehog]

This comment is interesting from the Benson interview;

Anko Boelens is the Dutch team doctor of Giant-Shimano. The team are one of the members of the MPCC, a body that Team Sky has opted not to join.

“Of course I’m not at Team Sky so I’ve not seen the TUE myself but from what I gather it’s a TUE for glucocorticosteroid and there are two issues at stake,” Boelens told Cyclingnews.

“However we would have done things a bit different. For us no matter how sick you are if you need it, you don’t race. If you want to know how sick you can be and still win then you need to ask Team Sky. Ask them, so your rider needs cortisone and he wins, how sick can he be? For me I can’t answer that and I don’t want to suggest anything because I can’t judge.”

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Coincidence or what?

The Dawg made a huge mistake asking Cound to resign from her job and become a "housewife".

Coincidence or what?

Elvis 1956
You ain't nothin' but a Cound Dwag
Cryin' all the time
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit and you ain't no friend of mine

Well they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie


Revealed in The Climb (yuk)
Froome has two pet pythons and used to catch rats to feed to them, even heating them in the oven to make them more tasty. When the snakes grew too big for rats, Froome started with rabbits .

 

[TailWindHome]

This TUE proves:
1. the bio-passport is theater and the UCI treats it as exactly that.
2. UCI favors riders. They have no problem altering the outcome of their races.
3. WADA is powerless to enforce their standards.

Can you elaborate on how you think this TUE proves 1 and 2.

 

[Will Carter]

Not sure what to say

I would suggest she is on about the fact its been leaked ...

 

[the sceptic]

Can you elaborate on how you think this TUE proves 1 and 2.

Wild guess.. But maybe because we found that Zorzoli is basically a one man comittee and he is also the man for the bio passport(?), its hard to take any of it seriously.

 

[TailWindHome]

Wild guess.. But maybe because we found that Zorzoli is basically a one man comittee and he is also the man for the bio passport(?), its hard to take any of it seriously.

Possibly. But that doesn't support the assertion that Froome/Sky have received favourable treatment.

I would have thought the more likely scenario is that TUEs are handed out like Smarties - but then again I have no evidence for that

 

[thehog]

Possibly. But that doesn't support the assertion that Froome/Sky have received favourable treatment.

I would have thought the more likely scenario is that TUEs are handed out like Smarties - but then again I have no evidence for that

Except those teams belonging to the MPCC won't allow to race with TUEs. Point in case per Nibali.

It's really only Sky and Saxo which has a free for all on TUEs.

 

[ScienceIsCool]

I would suggest she is on about the fact its been leaked ...

And I would suggest that she's gone a bit Dagenham (i.e., two stops short of Barking). I mean just look at that reaction! She doesn't even know how the TUE leaked or who leaked it.

John Swanson

 

[MartinGT]

I would suggest she is on about the fact its been leaked ...

Man, I bet Cookson, Sky and the UCI wish she would STFU.

What a complete nutter she is!

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Except those teams belonging to the MPCC won't allow to race with TUEs. Point in case per Nibali.

It's really only Sky and Saxo which has a free for all on TUEs.

Just because I was curious:

Bolded are MPCC member teams

1 OmegaPharma - Quick Step Cycling Team PRT 13731
2. Movistar Team PRT 10568
3. BMC Racing Team PRT 10148
4. Team Sky PRT 9363
5. Tinkoff - Saxo PRT 9058
6. Team Katusha PRT 9016
7. Lampre - Merida PRT 8614
8. Ag2r La Mondiale PRT 8541
9. Team Giant - Shimano PRT 8426
10. Belkin Pro Cycling Team PRT 8359
11. Garmin - Sharp PRT 7885
12. FDJ.fr PRT 7600
13. Astana Pro Team PRT 7503
14. Orica - GreenEDGE PRT 7385
15. Cannondale PRT 7053
16. Trek Factory Racing PRT 6598
17. Lotto - Belisol PRT 6572
18. IAM Cycling PROF 5553
19. Team Europcar PRT 4785
20. Cofidis, Solutions Crédits PROF 4630
21. Wanty - Groupe Gobert PROF 3898
22. Topsport Vlaanderen - Baloise PROF 3426
23. Team NetApp - Endura PROF 3282
24. MTN - Qhubeka PROF 2822
25. Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela PROF 2679
26. Caja Rural - Seguros RGA PROF 2486 27. Bretagne - Séché Environnement PROF 2455
28. Bardiani - CSF PROF 2404
29. Neri Sottoli PROF 2396
30. CCC Polsat - Polkowice PROF 2370

 

[jens_attacks]

Wild guess.. But maybe because we found that Zorzoli is basically a one man comittee and he is also the man for the bio passport(?), its hard to take any of it seriously.

how many pro riders died on zorzoli's watch?

i rest my case.

if you guys want to find saints taking over wada,uci,aso, good luck finding them. years ago, most of the clinic praised david walsh as the big journalist lol.

zorzoli is a keeper.
tues are ok and many substances should be available to the riders. but only under supervision of doctors and health inspectors. every rider to have access.