UCI in a panic over document in Friday's L'Equipe

[Ryo Hazuki]

landis a pathalogic liar grown up among amish or whatever. I'd rather trust the rockefellers

 

[thehog]

landis a pathalogic liar grown up among amish or whatever. I'd rather trust the rockefellers

The French will stop at nothing to deride Ukrainians.

 

[Walkman]

Horner got a 0 while Popo got a 10?

LOL. Cancellara got a 0?

This stuff is funny.

The Shack riders makes no sense! Wasn't Horner top-10 last year?

Levi right next to his boss, Lance with a 4. Got to stay close enough to hand a bottle, after all.

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

riders who didn't start the TdF whose scores you'd love to see

what I'd give to see the scores of:

Hoogerland
Scarponi
The whole Androni team

 

[The Hitch]

Wow. Number 5 is a doping hall of fame

5: Contador, , Vinokourov, Ballan, Rojas
Then ,
Ivanov, Karpets, Kolobnev, - Katusha

Thats just people who have been caught or involved in doping investigations. 1 or 2 suspicious riders in there too.

Also Cancellara - 0. Thats funny considering the hate he gets on here. (i too think hes doping, but it is still funny)

 

[andy1234]

Some classic comments from Floyd:

GreyManrod Chade O. Grey @
@Cycleboredom the only disappointing part is the confirmation that the Bio Passport is of little value apart from determining frenchness.
30 minutes ago


GreyManrod Chade O. Grey @
@nyvelocity also size of their dog
32 minutes ago


GreyManrod Chade O. Grey
Hopefully next year they'll discover the shower and toothpaste.
36 minutes ago

GreyManrod Chade O. Grey
L'equipe has created an algorithm for determining how likely it is that a person is French!

GreyManrod Chade O. Grey @
@TdFLanterne cycling has become figure skating and synchronized swimming! Horner got a "0"? What did he get with that pony tail?
5 minutes ago

Which one is Landis again, Beavis or Butthead?

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

 

[Merckx index]

We can now create our own revised GC ranking after every GT, without having to wait for doping cases to be resolved. Just multiply the rider's finish by his doping index. E.g., last year's TDF:

AC 1 x 5 = 5
AS 2 x 3 = 6
DM 3 x 9 = 27
SS 4 x 4 = 16
VDB 5 x 8 = 40
Gesink 6 x 1 = 6
RH 7 x 1 = 7
J Rod 8 x 3 = 24
Kreuz 9 x 3 = 27
Horner 10 x 0 = 0
N Roche 15 x 0 = 0

So revised GC podium:

Horner
Roche
Bert

A Schleck/Gesink tie for 4th and round out the top 5.

 

[Von Mises]

Yes because they didn't train in Tenerife (Ferrari) /Hawaii (no out of comp testing)/Columbia (high attitude – *cough*) /Switzerland (Ferrari) . They were stupid enough to train on the very terrain they raced on. Give me a break. I know these guys. They train hard, race more than every other athlete in the peloton. When our favs are hidden away in the US and Spain "preparing" the French are riding BS races around their own roads breaking their balls.

Today's report proves this fact. To "prepare" properly you can't race too much and you need to stay well out of view not to be tested too often. Showing up to race defeats that intent.

Hog, these things are not mutually exclusive. For instance, Taaramae who is Cofidis´ best stage racer and several other Cofidis riders were using wind tunnel this spring first time during their whole career. And this, despite the fact that they have asked and begged management for wind tunnel opportunity for couple of years already.

It does not mean that they do not train hard, but it mean that they are lacking money or knowledge in many other areas.

 

[cocteau_ireland]

Likin' it! Think this one's got legs!

 

[sniper]

Which one is Landis again, Beavis or Butthead?

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

So you're the guy who never understands the joke when everybody's laughing?
Now that's sad.

 

[The Hitch]

? certain guys are 100% clean like pinotti, moncoutie and gesink so pls explain how it comes they ride so well.

How do you know Gesink is 100% clean?

 

[sniper]

How do you know Gesink is 100% clean?

of course, he doesn't, but he's been spending some time here showing that adding one plus one is not his strength, so why not let him live the dream.

 

[bigloco]

We can now create our own revised GC ranking after every GT, without having to wait for doping cases to be resolved. Just multiply the rider's finish by his doping index. E.g., last year's TDF:

AC 1 x 5 = 5
AS 2 x 3 = 6
DM 3 x 9 = 27
SS 4 x 4 = 16
VDB 5 x 8 = 40
Gesink 6 x 1 = 6
RH 7 x 1 = 7
J Rod 8 x 3 = 24
Kreuz 9 x 3 = 27
Horner 10 x 0 = 0
N Roche 15 x 0 = 0

So revised GC podium:

Horner
Roche
Bert

USA! USA! USA!

I bet it feels good if you don't know what the list looks like to open the paper and see a 0 by your name!

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

So you're the guy who never understands the joke when everybody's laughing?
Now that's sad.

LOL. Funny right there.

 

[ergmonkey]

Ricco goes to eleven.

 

[pedaling squares]

Interesting list. JV has to like seeing Garmin & Cervelo near the low end of the list. It's no surprise seeing the likes of Popo, Menchov, and De la Fuente near the top, but there are enough surprises there to question whether chance events can have an effect.

The lack of testing of top-end riders is another reason to have tests done by an independent agency.

 

[ergmonkey]

Also, things just keep looking better for Matt Lloyd.

He now has a pretty unconvincing 'I'm not a doper' defense to go alongside his pretty unconvincing 'I don't have any mental issues' defense.

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

Millar is fuming:

"I understand I'm number four because of my misdemeanours in the past," he said referring to the two-year ban he received in 2004 for taking a banned performance-enhancing substance."They should never release it because there's always going to be anomalies, and people who are going to be badly judged even if it's a perfect model. What is it based on? It doesn't add up.
"I'm as clean as a whistle, my team (are) the cleanest guys and I have 100 percent faith in what we do. It's a bit mad.
"To see us in the middle of the list, it's like - are you joking? It's scandalous."

But David - its based upon biopassport reading prior to the TdF and the final prerace blood test on the eve of the race, Reputation doesn't come into it, or the man under Federal Investigation might have been a bit higher than 4, right?

 

[Astana1]

Millar is fuming:


But David - its based upon biopassport reading prior to the TdF and the final prerace blood test on the eve of the race, Reputation doesn't come into it, or the man under Federal Investigation might have been a bit higher than 4, right?

Sure it is. Keep telling yourself that if it comforts you.

 

[Benotti69]

Does anyone believe this list is soley based on blood tests or non testing. I imagine Roche got a 0 because his agent is a McQuaid. Horner suddenly discovering the legs of a rider 10years younger on a 0, how? Cancellara 0???

I think we can take the list with the usual UCI pinch of salt until we see what the figures* are actually based on.

*Figures may be based on $$$$s.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

landis a pathalogic liar grown up among amish or whatever. I'd rather trust the rockefellers

WoW

 

[bigloco]

Does anyone believe this list is soley based on blood tests or non testing. I imagine Roche got a 0 because his agent is a McQuaid. Horner suddenly discovering the legs of a rider 10years younger on a 0, how? Cancellara 0???

I think we take the list with the usual UCI pinch of salt until we see what the figures* are actually based on.

*Figures may be based on $$$$s.

Sometimes I question your logic, but this post is spot on!

 

[Astana1]

I am going to take the results of todays stage and cross reference them with the index. That should tell me who really won. And then I can get righteously indignant about that=, Road ID, Liz Hatch and how the ToC is killing all the little European stage races.

 

[andy1234]

LOL. Funny right there.

Ha ha yeah! Oh wait, I don't get it...

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

Sure it is. Keep telling yourself that if it comforts you.

well, a guy under federal investigation for weapons grade doping misdemeanors got a 4, the winner who actually tested positive got a 5, and some guys were ranked high as a total surprise to everyone as far as reputation / hearsay / evidence is concerned - so I'd say the chances are it is based on blood values.

If anything, those with a reputation such as Lance, AC have been bumped down not up.