Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[staubsauger]

I guess some don't understand the defintion of a rival



That's what Froome did to Contador, nibali not at all. How can a man who has never proven to be better than Contador, a man who always got destroyed by contador be considered his main rival?

Nibali hasn't proven anything against Contador, facts.

Froome hasn't done that to Contador, either. His bad 2013 season isn't representative at all. Nor has Schleck. Nor has anyone in a grand tour Alberto peaked for 100%!

By that definition Contador only had one true "most challenging" rival during his career: Michael Rasmussen!

 

[mastermind]

I guess some don't understand the defintion of a rival



That's what Froome did to Contador, nibali not at all. How can a man who has never proven to be better than Contador, a man who always got destroyed by contador be considered his main rival?

Nibali hasn't proven anything against Contador, facts.

Let's look at the last time these two raced against each other on a punchy finish. If i'm correct that was 2nd etappe of the Tour last year. At that moment they were both in top form. And Nibali won. So he did prove something against Contador, Fact

So if we look at the most recent past, Nibali was stronger then Contador.

I guess I'm not the only "crazy guy" here

Crazy guys always find eachother

 

[Netserk]

You are aware that Contador was over the last climb before Nibali, and that Nibali won the stage because of an attack on the flat and others not wanting to drag Sagan to the line? It hardly means he's punchier than Contador. Just see how easy it was for Alberto to distance Nibali on the first Vosges stage in the end.

 

[Miburo]

Let's look at the last time these two raced against each other on a punchy finish. If i'm correct that was 2nd etappe of the Tour last year. At that moment they were both in top form. And Nibali won. So he did prove something against Contador, Fact

Nibali won on a flat part, thanks for this amazing contribution. You're a smart boy.

 

[Miburo]

Froome hasn't done that to Contador, either. His bad 2013 season isn't representative at all. Nor has Schleck. Nor has anyone in a grand tour Alberto peaked for 100%!

By that definition Contador only had one true "most challenging" rival during his career: Michael Rasmussen!

Froome crushed Contador in 2013, contador was **** but still. Contador never won against froome too. So you don't know, you know with the other guys (vuelta isn't a good example), and rasmussen yea.

And in 2014 i still remember stage 2 of the dauphine, Froome is definitely close, (even maybe above) contador's climbing level.

 

[Carols]

You guys and gals will never get tired of this, will you...

It seems they will always be at each others throats, Sigh! I guess it is one way to pass the winter.....

 

[Carols]

And in 2014 i still remember stage 2 of the dauphine, Froome is definitely close, (even maybe above) contador's climbing level.

Yep Froome was giving Alberto all he could handle and just a tiny bit more. Then Froome crashed and his season was never the same. But if he comes back with those extended seated accelerations it will be tough going for the other 3.

Of course I hope he comes back pedaling squares and both Nibali and Contador leave him for dead and fight against each other. Mano a Mano Let the best man win!

 

[ILovecycling]

Oops, sorry not paying attention, has been a long day

Then I would say Nibali > Contador > Quintana > Froome

Contador / Nibali / Froome / Quintana imho

Cineteq is turning into a slightly less offensive version of Ryo, it seems.

but he is at least funny troll,cineteq is not.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Froome hasn't done that to Contador, either. His bad 2013 season isn't representative at all. Nor has Schleck. Nor has anyone in a grand tour Alberto peaked for 100%!

By that definition Contador only had one true "most challenging" rival during his career: Michael Rasmussen!

I'd say the 2013 season definitely counts for Froome

 

[LaFlorecita]

It seems they will always be at each others throats, Sigh! I guess it is one way to pass the winter.....

There's only one poster to blame for all this and the mods just let him do his thing. Unbelievable. I try to ignore him as much as I can but I can't just sit here and watch him troll away.

 

[cineteq]

There's only one poster to blame for all this and the mods just let him do his thing. Unbelievable. I try to ignore him as much as I can but I can't just sit here and watch him troll away.

Nominations for this year's Oscars are now closed. I truly think you'll have a chance next year if you continue to improve.

 

[pigoonse]

I'd say the 2013 season definitely counts for Froome

i won't discount his wins and his achievements - they are a matter of record. but for his head to head with Contador, imo, i absolutely throw 2013 out

we'll see. i throw 2013 out but i must take it back, if Contador repeats a 2013 form in 2015. for now, i look at 2013 Contador as a one off.

as for TdF 2015 favorites on mur bretagne, i like to go with the opinion of someone i respect and won it:

http://www.steephill.tv/players/you...shboard=tour-de-france&id=2FPy4QYSnPU&yr=2015

agree with Carol. this thread has turned into a big sigh. but disagree with LaFlo that it is cineteq's fault. i quite appreciate cineteq's input and opinions, particularly in this thread.

use the ignore feature if you must, LaFlo. cineteq is a knowledgeable cycling fan and his opinions are not any more inflammatory than many of the anti-nibali fans who post here to take shots at Nibali fans.

 

[LaFlorecita]

but disagree with LaFlo that it is cineteq's fault. i quite appreciate cineteq's input and opinions, particularly in this thread.

use the ignore feature if you must, LaFlo. cineteq is a knowledgeable cycling fan and his opinions are not any more inflammatory than many of the anti-nibali fans who post here to take shots at Nibali.

Uh..... okay then.... to each their own... I know at least 7-8 members who have stated that they agree with me... so yea

What is your opinion on the way he keeps repeating to anyone that thinks Contador is a better cyclist than Nibali, that they should stop living in the past, are biased and/or fanboys and should "deal" with the "fact" that Nibali is better? It's very simple: all his posts are meant to provoke, in particular Contador fans. There is a name for that: baiting, or, trolling.

 

[cineteq]

as for TdF 2015 favorites on mur bretagne, i like to go with the opinion of someone i respect and won it:

http://www.steephill.tv/players/you...shboard=tour-de-france&id=2FPy4QYSnPU&yr=2015

agree with Carol. this thread has turned into a big sigh. but disagree with LaFlo that it is cineteq's fault. i quite appreciate cineteq's input and opinions, particularly in this thread.

use the ignore feature if you must, LaFlo. cineteq is a knowledgeable cycling fan and his opinions are not any more inflammatory than many of the anti-nibali fans who post here to take shots at Nibali.

I agree with Cadel as well...first time I've seen the video. Thanks for backing me up. I'll try to keep it down, but I can't keep quiet when it comes to bullying and insults. THAT I cannot accept.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I agree with Cadel as well...first time I've seen the video. Thanks for backing me up. I'll try to keep it down, but I can't keep quiet when it comes to bullying and insults. THAT I cannot accept.

Stop twisting things, provoking and taking shots at people who don't share your opinion Nibali is a cycling god and perhaps people would stop calling you what you are.

 

[Red Rick]

Cineteq is turning into a slightly less offensive version of Ryo, it seems.

If possible, an even dumber version of Ryo.

add less funny and less bearable. I'm actually still hoping he comes up with the list of 30 climbers better than Nibali

You guys and gals will never get tired of this, will you...

It seems they will always be at each others throats, Sigh! I guess it is one way to pass the winter.....

Logical and persistent vs illogical and persistent, really. Maybe we should find a fun, ridiculous way to settle this.

 

[pigoonse]

Uh..... okay then.... to each their own... I know at least 7-8 members who have stated that they agree with me... so yea

What is your opinion on the way he keeps repeating to anyone that thinks Contador is a better cyclist than Nibali, that they should stop living in the past, are biased and/or fanboys and should "deal" with the "fact" that Nibali is better? It's very simple: all his posts are meant to provoke, in particular Contador fans. There is a name for that: baiting, or, trolling.

as posters go you are very popular. i have noticed at least 2 or 3 that will regularly and rapidly come to your defense. and if those defenders weren't there, i would also come to your defense (not that you ever need defending; you do that quite well on your own)

what i am saying is use the ignore feature, it's easy.

cineteq has a right to his opinion, as you do.

je suis charlie...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Logical and persistent vs illogical and persistent, really. Maybe we should find a fun, ridiculous way to settle this.

We'll just have to wait till TDF! Only 6.5 months! Hopefully we won't have gone insane by that time

 

[Rollthedice]

i won't discount his wins and his achievements - they are a matter of record. but for his head to head with Contador, imo, i absolutely throw 2013 out

we'll see. i throw 2013 out but i must take it back, if Contador repeats a 2013 form in 2015. for now, i look at 2013 Contador as a one off.

as for TdF 2015 favorites on mur bretagne, i like to go with the opinion of someone i respect and won it:

http://www.steephill.tv/players/you...shboard=tour-de-france&id=2FPy4QYSnPU&yr=2015

agree with Carol. this thread has turned into a big sigh. but disagree with LaFlo that it is cineteq's fault. i quite appreciate cineteq's input and opinions, particularly in this thread.

use the ignore feature if you must, LaFlo. cineteq is a knowledgeable cycling fan and his opinions are not any more inflammatory than many of the anti-nibali fans who post here to take shots at Nibali.

Thanks for the link. Funny how Cadel almost discards Froome's and Contador's chances. On the other hand it's obvious Valverde will go for that particular stage win, some bonus seconds included. Quintana will have an "interesting" challenge next year in TdF.

 

[Carols]

Thanks for the link. Funny how Cadel almost discards Froome's and Contador's chances. On the other hand it's obvious Valverde will go for that particular stage win, some bonus seconds included. Quintana will have an "interesting" challenge next year in TdF.

I was kind of shocked myself, Cadel tips Nibali and next Quintana to take the whole enchilada! Very Interesting!

 

[Carols]

Maybe we should find a fun, ridiculous way to settle this.

Sounds like a Grand Idea .

 

[LaFlorecita]

I was kind of shocked myself, Cadel tips Nibali and next Quintana to take the whole enchilada! Very Interesting!

He did not tip Nibali though, he said "I'd like to think Nibali because he lives so close by to me, BUT...."

 

[Carols]

He did not tip Nibali though, he said "I'd like to think Nibali because he lives so close by to me, BUT...."

Well he surely didn't tip Condator or Froome, they didn't even get a mention as possible winners.....Surprised!!!

Anyway what does Cadel know

 

[cineteq]

Well he surely didn't tip Condator or Froome, they didn't even get a mention as possible winners.....Surprised!!!

Anyway what does Cadel know

Cadel has insider information and everybody should pay attention to him

 

[Publicus]

I was kind of shocked myself, Cadel tips Nibali and next Quintana to take the whole enchilada! Very Interesting!

I don't think Cuddles has any love for Contador. Not the way Contador use to toy with him at the Dauphine and Tour de France.