Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[cineteq]

I've been saying since last year Nibali will win the vuelta

I don't recall that, can you prove it?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't recall that, can you prove it?

What does it matter

 

[cineteq]

What does it matter

Are you bored?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Are you bored?

Yes and annoyed

 

[maxmartin]

Yes and annoyed

why annoyed, just because Nibali wants to compete with Contador But it won't be fair for Contador because he just finishs winning the Tour.

 

[SafeBet]

why annoyed, just because Nibali wants to compete with Contador But it won't be fair for Contador because he just finishs winning the Tour.

They'll both go for the TdF next year and that should settle it.

 

[maxmartin]

I dont completely agree as until last year he used to ride on his own into some crazy attacks which are very nice for us tv vieweres/fans, but not ever very productive.

That is because he has a very weak team, and sometimes team do not even work for him, so he has to make attacks to even create some opportunities.

 

[maxmartin]

They'll both go for the TdF next year and that should settle it.

No won't be fair to Nibali, he has to defend his Giro

 

[Samson]

There have also been critics about Kangert, going full gas on the TT instead of saving energy for the team.

How can you critisize someone who's been consistently (if we leave out stage 10) there with Nibali unlike other teammates?

 

[Miburo]

Seriously people think Nibali can maybe get to Contador 2011-level?

And i thought i was a fanboy...

Yea i mean nibali is really crushing the mountains lately...

Majka, evans, pozzovivo are really feeling it...

That ITT was amazing of nibali but for the rest he hasn't shown me any improvement in the mountains in this giro compared to last year.

 

[maxmartin]

How can you critisize someone who's been consistently (if we leave out stage 10) there with Nibali unlike other teammates?

Maybe it shows Nibali is also also extremely nice to his teammates, he wants his teammates to achieve the best personal result possible. I am sure they go through this with Nibali.

 

[Netserk]

Seriously people think Nibali can maybe get to Contador 2011-level?

And i thought i was a fanboy...

Yea i mean nibali is really crushing the mountains lately...

Majka, evans, pozzovivo are really feeling it...

That ITT was amazing of nibali but for the rest he hasn't showed me any improvement in the mountains in this giro

Show me one who has said that

 

[LaFlorecita]

They'll both go for the TdF next year and that should settle it.

Of course not, Nibali is progressing and Alberto is declining, it's like saying Alberto is better than Lance because he beat Lance in 2009 (I know bad example)

 

[maxmartin]

Seriously people think Nibali can maybe get to Contador 2011-level?

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who said that? We are just talking it would be interesting to see Nibali goes against Contador again.

 

[Netserk]

They already faced each other in T-A this year.

That said I don't think Nibali '12 would have been able to keep up with Contador in the 2012 Vuelta.

 

[Miburo]

Show me one who has said that

Facing an on form Contador; well that is territory to be explored yet! Something for us to look forward to

This

I'm pretty sure this guy is referring to a Contador of 2011 or 2009

 

[LaFlorecita]

This

I'm pretty sure this guy is referring to a Contador of 2011 or 2009

It is a lady

 

[SafeBet]

Seriously people think Nibali can maybe get to Contador 2011-level?

No.
I said TdF 14.

2011 is past. Why should I care about it?

 

[Miburo]

They already faced each other in T-A this year.

That said I don't think Nibali '12 would have been able to keep up with Contador in the 2012 Vuelta.

That's an interesting topic.

I'm not sure about that one. Hard to tell of course.

 

[SafeBet]

Of course not, Nibali is progressing and Alberto is declining, it's like saying Alberto is better than Lance because he beat Lance in 2009 (I know bad example)

Why do you think I'm discussin the overall value of the riders throughout their careers?
I never even mentioned this, nor has anybody else.

 

[Miburo]

No.
I said TdF 14.

2011 is past. Why should I care about it?

Yea why would we care about the past? Past means nothing these days. Guy from the gruppeto in the past can win a gt nowadays.

Keep talking big. I bet you did it too in 2011 "oh contador wasn't really good in the tour last year, nibali can take him".

A domestique of Contador can even follow Nibali. How scary...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Why do you think I'm discussin the overall value of the riders throughout their careers?
I never even mentioned this, nor has anybody else.

Asked who is stronger between him and Contador, Nibali says he doesn't know but would like to measure his strengths against him.


I thought this meant that Nibali wants to know who is the better cyclist

 

[SafeBet]

Yea why would we care about the past?

I care.
It's just not the issue we're discussing here.

We're just hoping to see Nibali vs Contador soon enough to be entertained.
And that's the last post I'll write in response to you or LaFlo. It's impossible to discuss anything concerning Contador with you both.


I'm still waiting you to say I was right about Nibali beating Contador in T/A ITT btw.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yea why would we care about the past? Past means nothing these days. Guy from the gruppeto in the past can win a gt nowadays.

Keep talking big. I bet you did it too in 2011 "oh contador wasn't really good in the tour last year, nibali can take him".

A domestique of Contador can even follow Nibali. How scary...

Yes and Majka said it wasn't even hard Froome would be 3 min ahead of Nibali by now, he isn't really that strong

 

[LaFlorecita]

I care.
It's just not the issue we're discussing here.

We're just hoping to see Nibali vs Contador soon enough to be entertained.
And that's the last post I'll write in response to you or LaFlo. It's impossible to discuss anything concerning Contador with you both.


I'm still waiting you to say I was right about Nibali beating Contador in T/A ITT btw.

You were right. Congratulations You smug *edit: that wasn't very nice*