Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[telencefalus]

Re:

https://twitter.com/EuroHoody/status/904783209073958912
When asked what he would do to try beat Sky at this Vuelta, Froome shrugged with a laugh: "I'd go for stage wins"

As if Nibali needed more motivation to crush Sky.

this is telling you that Froome knows very well that if he was not in team sky he would chase stage winning and not gc , Nibali does not give a **** about these things

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Slongo also thought they would lose 40/50 seconds in the first time trial of the Giro, and he lost 2 minutes.

I think Slongo has much more experience than you and me so i trust him

for a guy with that much experience he is often wrong / too optimistic with his predictions though..

 

[telencefalus]

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Slongo also thought they would lose 40/50 seconds in the first time trial of the Giro, and he lost 2 minutes.

I think Slongo has much more experience than you and me so i trust him

for a guy with that much experience he is often wrong / too optimistic with his predictions though..

will see this afternoon i will check the times

 

[dacooley]

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Slongo also thought they would lose 40/50 seconds in the first time trial of the Giro, and he lost 2 minutes.

I think Slongo has much more experience than you and me so i trust him

for a guy with that much experience he is often wrong / too optimistic with his predictions though..

as a couch, he should be able to be optimistic to encourage his athlete charging him with positive energy. might've been really weird if slongo said 'im expecting nibali to lose one and a half or two minutes'.

 

[Climbing]

Yeah well what can Slongo say? It's more about encouraging Nibali that anything else.
This requires legs though, so we can have a clear indication of form, check if someone is declining or not.

 

[Gigs_98]

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Slongo also thought they would lose 40/50 seconds in the first time trial of the Giro, and he lost 2 minutes.

Tbf, hardly anyone expected Dumoulin to be that good. He had just ridden the most impressive mountain stage of his career and earlier that season his TT was disappointing in Tirreno Adriatico.
I think that prediction was optimistic anyway, but not as much as it maybe seems in retrospective.

 

[Rollthedice]

I don't remember Slongo before Montefalco saying he'd loose 40/50 sec to Dumoulin only that he expect Nibali to gain 40 sec on Quintana and I would also like to see a source for his prediction for today. Anyway, anything between 1 minute and 1'30'' is good, preferably closer to the minute. I think that's about all he can do but there might be suprises, his proverbial last week form should kick in.

 

[Carols]

Re: Re:

https://twitter.com/EuroHoody/status/904783209073958912
When asked what he would do to try beat Sky at this Vuelta, Froome shrugged with a laugh: "I'd go for stage wins"

As if Nibali needed more motivation to crush Sky.

this is telling you that Froome knows very well that if he was not in team sky he would chase stage winning and not gc , Nibali does not give a **** about these things

Exactly.....

 

[Eclipse]

Happy with that. Really quite a strong showing all things considered. Think it just feels a bit bad because after the first split it really felt like Froome might not be on one. It's a big ask but it's a gap that's doable on strength and not just on a miracle. fingers crossed =)

 

[Matteo.]

57s...i expected a bit more ( between 60 and 90).
A good result indeed.
Now It's time to show balls if he really want the victory. Waiting the last climb it Will be not enough

 

[Carols]

Very credible ride today! Two high mountain stages to go, chances of win are low but still possible. Forza Vincenzo!

 

[jsem94]

I don't see him toppling Froome on the Angliru by much anyway. Has to try something spectacular on stage 18 or 19 and rattle Sky.

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

https://twitter.com/EuroHoody/status/904783209073958912
When asked what he would do to try beat Sky at this Vuelta, Froome shrugged with a laugh: "I'd go for stage wins"

As if Nibali needed more motivation to crush Sky.

That's the single most arrogant quote I've heard in years.

 

[Rollthedice]

Best TT in ages, he is in great form. Now the final assault.

 

[Rollthedice]

Re: Re:

https://twitter.com/EuroHoody/status/904783209073958912
When asked what he would do to try beat Sky at this Vuelta, Froome shrugged with a laugh: "I'd go for stage wins"

As if Nibali needed more motivation to crush Sky.

That's the single most arrogant quote I've heard in years.

Yep, good ol likeable chap Froome, all smiles but no lips.

 

[SafeBet]

Better than I hoped, but similar to the TT he rode in Milano to close the Giro. Now it's time to go berserk.

 

[telencefalus]

Nibali is the last man that could avoid Froome enter in the history , he doesn't like Froome they pretty hate each other remeber the tour 2015 and the book Nibali wrote , Nibali define Froome biohazard

 

[Gigs_98]

It's funny that so many people call nibali overrated but especially in tt's he always gets underrated. I read somewhere that someone called this the tt of his life which makes me wonder how fast it's possible to forget races. Even his performance in the first giro tt this year was around as good as this one.

 

[telencefalus]

as i said Froome is beating a very in form Nibali , will see in the last stages if he will be better than at the giro , but Froome is beating him easyly after doing le tour and as a poster said doing 3000 km in the just 26 days between the 2 races

 

[Rollthedice]

It's funny that so many people call nibali overrated but especially in tt's he always gets underrated. I read somewhere that someone called this the tt of his life which makes me wonder how fast it's possible to forget races. Even his performance in the first giro tt this year was around as good as this one.

He was third in TT world championships at junior and under 23 level.

 

[Red Rick]

For Nibali, in this field, this was about par for the course.

 

[Climbing]

I think it was quite good and mostly Froome was very slightly below his old usual.
But yeah, pretty much in line.

 

[ruby]

telencefalus said Nibali called Froome a' bio hazard' - oh i love that- was that in the book?

and Rollthedice 'Yep, good ol likeable chap Froome, all smiles but no lips.' -thanks that cheered me up!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Nibali is so pessimistic about his chances the last few days. Entirely different from the Giro where he kept believing it was possible.

Is that he sees it's hopeless to attack Sky? There is no ambush possible with such a strong team, unlike in the Giro were the leader had no team?

 

[dfromdub]

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Nibali is so pessimistic about his chances the last few days. Entirely different from the Giro where he kept believing it was possible.

Judging by his interviews he was way more pessimistic during the giro than what seen in this Vuelta.
At the Giro he basically always said that Domoulin was going to win since "not even Quintana could drop him and even so there was that long ITT at the end of the race". But then, during the actual race they tried and tried to make something happen.
In this Vuelta I saw his interviews and he does not say he is going to win or similar but he does not say "there's no way we can beat sky" either.