Vincenzo Nibali

[Dazed and Confused]

In comparison Fuglsang looks like a classics rider (EDIT: sprinter) more than a gc-contender. Too much muscles for the real cote's

See Fuglsang is a rider I think could handle P-R and be a real factor.
He should drop all the prep stage races and head north in spring.

 

[Tinman]

Is this on here yet?
Are they tags on the arm-warmers?

These must have been the "100% effort tags" that Vino gave him in Spring.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-reprimanded-by-vinokourov-over-early-season-results

They are sure making a dramatic difference from the results earlier in the season. Vino's small concerns were addressed as he never lost his confidence in Nibali.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vinokourov-never-lost-confidence-in-nibali

 

[WillemS]

??
Kittel admitted to having his blood drawn and later reinfused -- the so-called ozone therapy. Rather less evidence than actual proof of doping, no?

Once, when I was younger, I ran a red light in my father's car. I got caught, got a ticket, confessed to my father, had a conversation about it. To date, I never did it again.

At the time Kittel underwent ozone therapy, he was 19 and the procedure was not banned. Moreover, the therapy was prescribed by a doctor working for the German, government backed, Olympic support point in Erfurt.

I don't think that's enough to condemn someone for the rest of his career.

That said, I don't know if Kittel is clean, I certainly wouldn't take a bet on it. However, I don't think the ozone therapy counts as evidence against him being clean.

 

[mrhender]

See Fuglsang is a rider I think could handle P-R and be a real factor.
He should drop all the prep stage races and head north in spring.

Somewhere down the line he has to make a choice..
He seems to bee keen on being a GT contender but his body build looks like a guy lifting too much weights..
Anyway he is a massive help for Nibali, and will be stable in the mountains..
Could see him winning a WC in the future i he progresses like he's done consistently throughout his career.. He's biggest flaw is the lack of sprinting ability so he has to come to the final metres alone to win..

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Funny the false narrative. Yea, Nibali is almost certainly doping...but he rides with panache, and that goes a long way when you've got someone like Stem Gazer whining and doping, and making riding a bike look so ugly...not to mention his girlfriend's penchant for sounding like a clanging gong.

 

[Tinman]

Funny the false narrative. Yea, Nibali is almost certainly doping...but he rides with panache, and that goes a long way when you've got someone like Stem Gazer whining and doping, and making riding a bike look so ugly...not to mention his girlfriend's penchant for sounding like a clanging gong.

Quite a dilemma for UCI coming. Will Brian go to Vino's Champs party in Paris? Or bust him beforehand?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Quite a dilemma for UCI coming. Will Brian go to Vino's Champs party in Paris? Or bust him beforehand?

The funny thing to me is that Vino is still doping...

 

[mrhender]

Astana plans Fuglsang to take yellow from Nibali

http://www.bt.dk/cykling/overraskende-plan-astana-vil-have-fuglsang-i-den-gule-foerertroeje
In danish..

Fuglsang said that the plan is to let him close the gap to Nibali to take yellow..

The purpose is to spare Nibali from all the extra interwievs/duties that yellow jersey contains includding all the x-tra time spent on doping-controls..

They are testing yellow everyday yes?

 

[del1962]

Funny the false narrative. Yea, Nibali is almost certainly doping...but he rides with panache, and that goes a long way when you've got someone like Stem Gazer whining and doping, and making riding a bike look so ugly...not to mention his girlfriend's penchant for sounding like a clanging gong.

Silly me, I thought the clinic was about doping, not riding style?

I guess why some people might think the place is full of hypocracy, not an accusation I would like to make

Though at least you have an excuse Chewwy, being a merican and all that, suprised you know where France is

 

[Rollthedice]

http://www.bt.dk/cykling/overraskende-plan-astana-vil-have-fuglsang-i-den-gule-foerertroeje
In danish..

Fuglsang said that the plan is to let him close the gap to Nibali to take yellow..

The purpose is to spare Nibali from all the extra interwievs/duties that yellow jersey contains includding all the x-tra time spent on doping-controls..

They are testing yellow everyday yes?

Birdsong talks too much. I wouldn't be surprised if he spills the beans regarding further tactics. But it's a funny idea to pass the yellow between Astana team members. Maybe they can pass it to Vino also?

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://www.bt.dk/cykling/overraskende-plan-astana-vil-have-fuglsang-i-den-gule-foerertroeje
In danish..

Fuglsang said that the plan is to let him close the gap to Nibali to take yellow..

The purpose is to spare Nibali from all the extra interwievs/duties that yellow jersey contains includding all the x-tra time spent on doping-controls..

They are testing yellow everyday yes?

Will be interesting to see if they can manage that without Nibali losing time to Contador too

 

[mrhender]

Birdsong talks too much. I wouldn't be surprised if he spills the beans regarding further tactics. But it's a funny idea to pass the yellow between Astana team members. Maybe they can pass it to Vino also?

Thats the idea with Birdsong..
To get a jersey that would fit Vino when he confiscates it in the bus

 

[Winterfold]

Fuglsang has exactly the physique of the kind of dom you'd want in front of you on a day like Wednesday - and like he could still go and race xc and enduro without getting thrown off his bike

whiners - if a Sky group of Thomas, Wiggo and Eisel were in the front of the final selection noone here would be saying it was purely dope fuelled - but your hypothetical Froome at the front could never happen, even with doping.

 

[mrhender]

Will be interesting to see if they can manage that without Nibali losing time to Contador too

An epic scenario would be if Nibali purposeley looses two seconds today only to be beaten by one second overall

 

[del1962]

An epic scenario would be if Nibali purposeley looses two seconds today only to be beaten by one second overall

Not without losing time to other GC contenders (which will be more than two seconds), you don't think they will let Fulsang just get away on his own, if he really wanted Fulang in yellow, stage 5 was the perfect opportunity

 

[mrhender]

Not without losing time to other GC contenders (which will be more than two seconds), you don't think they will let Fulsang just get away on his own, if he really wanted Fulang in yellow, stage 5 was the perfect opportunity

Not sure I understand you correctly..
But IMO no-one will let Fuglsang get away.. Nibali has to drop back a few seconds and yes he will loose 2-5 seconds to everyone hence the scenario I played out.. But only pure speculation and with a blink in the eye

 

[Benotti69]

Silly me, I thought the clinic was about doping, not riding style?

Silly you to take one post and consider it the voice of the clinic...

 

[del1962]

Not sure I understand you correctly..
But IMO no-one will let Fuglsang get away.. Nibali has to drop back a few seconds and yes he will loose 2-5 seconds to everyone hence the scenario I played out.. But only pure speculation and with a blink in the eye

Depends how many in the group though, if the group is too big more than a couple of seconds.

 

[mrhender]

Depends how many in the group though, if the group is too big more than a couple of seconds.

True... But then they won't do it i think..

 

[The Hitch]

Not sure I understand you correctly..
But IMO no-one will let Fuglsang get away.. Nibali has to drop back a few seconds and yes he will loose 2-5 seconds to everyone hence the scenario I played out.. But only pure speculation and with a blink in the eye

He would lose more unless its a select stage, since he needs 1 second between him and the last rider in the peloton for it to register as a gap, but the actual gap will be counted from the first rider in the peloton so it could be like 10 seconds.

 

[LaFlorecita]

So apparently Nibali's coach said he's 1.5kg lighter than at last year's Giro but puts out the same Watts. Hmmm...

 

[SundayRider]

I can't see Nibali losing this lead if he stays out of trouble.

 

[ScienceIsCool]

I can't see Nibali losing this lead if he stays out of trouble.

Agreed. My guess is that the other podium spots will go to Valverde and Talansky. Contador top ten, but not in contention for a podium spot. He's got too much ground to make up and Astana has a strong team to keep him and a battered Saxo under control.

John Swanson

 

[Rollthedice]

So apparently Nibali's coach said he's 1.5kg lighter than at last year's Giro but puts out the same Watts. Hmmm...

Old news. Besides he needs more watts to match Contador not less weight.

 

[hrotha]

Old news. Besides he needs more watts to match Contador not less weight.

He needs (needed?) more W/kg. Assuming he *is* lighter, of course. It wouldn't be the first time someone pulls a weight loss out of their asses to try to justify a sudden wattage spike.