Vincenzo Nibali

[Ripper]

I would have believed this more if Nibs was 1 minute slower but had ridden while smoking a stogie.

 

[Netserk]

@LaFLo it's not 1018m but 1050m

 

[jilbiker]

Unbelievable result today

I know its a MT ITT but a gap of nearly a minute is just too much. Mind you I am not surprised by this trend from Nibali. Team Astana??? Run by Vino?? Of course everything goes! its Vino...When Riders choose their team, its who fits with my plans and clearly Nibali had major plans for this year wrt juice. Look at the TTT results at this year's Giro

Sky
Astana
Movistar
Katusha

Wow, the 4 double juice teams, nothing has changed...

 

[Parrulo]

What i think its funny is guys like Webvan who are sure Sky is clean just keep making clinic references on the PRR section every time Nibali's name comes up.

Double standards much?

Both are doped to the gills at the moment, but imho its pretty clear who started the arms race

 

[Miburo]

so if Nibali did 6.4 W/kg on Montasio how much did Uran?

Uran rides in sky thus he's clean. Well actually uran is the most believable GT rider in sky.

Anyway if it's really true that nibali did above 6.5 W/Kg...Well yeah don't make it too obvious lol

Still the guy he defeated was samu. Now ok Samu is a great rider but what did he show of big form this year? I know we always go back to weak competition but yeah...

1 minutes is ridiculous though, it's very suspicious but imo Porte's MTT on eze was WAY WORSE

 

[LaFlorecita]

@LaFLo it's not 1018m but 1050m

is my calculator acting up?

 

[Rollthedice]

I personally like Nibali, it seems to be the next Contador. Question is when he'll bite the bad filet mignon.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Uran rides in sky thus he's clean. Well actually uran is the most believable GT rider in sky.

Anyway if it's really true that nibali did above 6.5 W/Kg...Well yeah don't make it too obvious lol

I agree on Uran. He's not finding grand tour podiums halfway through his career.

I estimate Nibali's scores in the range of 6.3-6.5 depending on the factors used and totally suspect. It's a shame Sir Brad wasn't there to be equally ridiculous.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I personally like Nibali, it seems to be the next Contador. Question is when he'll bite the bad filet mignon.

How can he be the next Contador when he's barely 2 years younger?

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

How can he be the next Contador when he's barely 2 years younger?

+ they are not even that similar

 

[SeriousSam]

Great performance from Nibali. Makes one wonder how much teh dawg would've been able to put into him. Probably not all that much.

 

[BroDeal]

Look at the TTT results at this year's Giro

Sky
Astana
Movistar
Katusha

Whenever someone wanders into the Clinic and demands to know why people think Sky is dirty, that list should be posted.

Nibali for the double. Unlike Contador in 2011, he's been taking it easy during the Giro.

 

[roundabout]

is my calculator acting up?

no, but there are downhills

 

[Walkman]

How can he be the next Contador when he's barely 2 years younger?

Easy. Dope, big time.

 

[Walkman]

Whenever someone wanders into the Clinic and demands to know why people think Sky is dirty, that list should be posted.

Nibali for the double. Unlike Contador in 2011, he's been taking it easy during the Giro.

I don't get it, a TTT is the worst way to judge a performance since there are so many other parameters than raw power output.

And besides, Astana, Movistar and Katusha has no real good TT:er.

Wiggins could probably beat Katusha on his own.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

I personally like Nibali, it seems to be the next Contador. Question is when he'll bite the bad filet mignon.

I'm not sure he will bite it. He may cuddle with it, caress it, nurture it, sniff it, maybe even kiss it. On a rest day for sure, or 10-14 days before TDF.

 

[Rollthedice]

I'm not sure he will bite it. He may cuddle with it, caress it, nurture it, sniff it, maybe even kiss it. On a rest day for sure, or 10-14 days before TDF.

Or maybe he's more into pasta? Specially prepared by Vino?

 

[The Hitch]

I don't get it, a TTT is the worst way to judge a performance since there are so many other parameters than raw power output.

And besides, Astana, Movistar and Katusha has no real good TT:er.

Wiggins could probably beat Katusha on his own.

Pre 2009 Wiggins?

 

[Bumeington]

Uran rides in sky thus he's clean. Well actually uran is the most believable GT rider in sky.

Anyway if it's really true that nibali did above 6.5 W/Kg...Well yeah don't make it too obvious lol

Still the guy he defeated was samu. Now ok Samu is a great rider but what did he show of big form this year? I know we always go back to weak competition but yeah...

1 minutes is ridiculous though, it's very suspicious but imo Porte's MTT on eze was WAY WORSE

We know from David Walsh that Porte on Eze was 400W (probable weight 63kg) which, with a factor of 95% to get to FTP from a 20 minute effort, gives almost exactly the magical 6.0W/kg

 

[maltiv]

so if Nibali did 6.4 W/kg on Montasio how much did Uran?

He didn't, other calculations show 6 w/kg.

Don't believe Ferrari's w/kg estimates, they are based solely on VAM, which means they grossly overstate w/kg on steep climbs.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Whenever someone wanders into the Clinic and demands to know why people think Sky is dirty, that list should be posted.

Nibali for the double. Unlike Contador in 2011, he's been taking it easy during the Giro.

But, but.... But.... BroDeal, that's not proof! That's stringing random facts together into another conspiracy theory. We need proof. And no, I won't tell you what kind of proof. I get to make that up while I pretend 2013 is the cleanest peloton ever.

 

[LaFlorecita]

+ they are not even that similar

Yes, Alberto is way more awesome. Plus a much better climber of course.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Easy. Dope, big time.

What I actually meant is that the new Contador implies that the old Contador is gone. Which he isn't. He's still there.

 

[Inquitus]

I think Nibbles has been nibbling on the PEDs

 

[whittashau]

What I actually meant is that the new Contador implies that the old Contador is gone. Which he isn't. He's still there.

No, not nowadays. People always like comparing people using a current contemporary name. I hear various footballers being named the new messi etc all the time