Volta Ciclista a Catalunya 2019, March 25-31

[Red Rick]

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Looked like there was a lot of wind. As for Nairoman, just because he looked effortless when following Bernal it doesn't mean he had the reserves to attack.

Indeed. Portraying Quintana as a wheelsucker is one of the most ridiculous memes in this forum. The guy went on a 50km attack only a couple of weeks ago. It's clear he's on the limit following Bernal here; not all riders gurn like Dumoulin or Martin when they are about to drop.

It's pretty much one of the truest memes on this forum.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re: Re:

Looked like there was a lot of wind. As for Nairoman, just because he looked effortless when following Bernal it doesn't mean he had the reserves to attack.

Indeed. Portraying Quintana as a wheelsucker is one of the most ridiculous memes in this forum. The guy went on a 50km attack only a couple of weeks ago. It's clear he's on the limit following Bernal here; not all riders gurn like Dumoulin or Martin when they are about to drop.

It's pretty much one of the truest memes on this forum.

same happened to Levi

 

[gunara]

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Bala cracked bad?

Really bad...

Only caught the final K. When/where did he drop?

Before the first attack.

Thanks. Wonder if it's sickness or just complete no legs so all the boni sprints for nothing.

 

[glassmoon]

Re: Re:

Looked like there was a lot of wind. As for Nairoman, just because he looked effortless when following Bernal it doesn't mean he had the reserves to attack.

Indeed. Portraying Quintana as a wheelsucker is one of the most ridiculous memes in this forum. The guy went on a 50km attack only a couple of weeks ago. It's clear he's on the limit following Bernal here; not all riders gurn like Dumoulin or Martin when they are about to drop.

It's pretty much one of the truest memes on this forum.

i can agree with that

 

[DNP-Old]

That GC is all over the place, that can't be correct surely?

 

[ruamruam]

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GC

So Bernal still a bit naive.

Surely there is something wrong with that GC? Bernal was ahed of Martin after stage 2.

 

[shalgo]

That GC makes no sense. Bernal was one second ahead of Martin after stage 2 and Bernal beat Martin today. Was there an intermediate sprint that I missed?

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

Looked like there was a lot of wind. As for Nairoman, just because he looked effortless when following Bernal it doesn't mean he had the reserves to attack.

Indeed. Portraying Quintana as a wheelsucker is one of the most ridiculous memes in this forum. The guy went on a 50km attack only a couple of weeks ago. It's clear he's on the limit following Bernal here; not all riders gurn like Dumoulin or Martin when they are about to drop.

It's pretty much one of the truest memes on this forum.

It's not. Firstly, because anyone who uses the term 'wheelsucker' in reference to a cyclist's tactics, reveals themselves to be completely clueless about bike racing.

Secondly, because Quintana has won 37 races in his career without being able to sprint or TT. Suggesting he actually attacks quite a lot.

And thirdly, Quintana has gone on a 50km+ solo attack in major races pretty much every season of his career.

It's a tired old meme with no basis in reality.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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That GC is all over the place, that can't be correct surely?

your probably right

 

[Alexandre B.]

Bardet and Pinot sniffing each other's wheel during the whole climb.

There's work to do.

 

[rick james]

Stuck in work, how did the dawg do??

 

[Screecher]

Re: Re:

Looked like there was a lot of wind. As for Nairoman, just because he looked effortless when following Bernal it doesn't mean he had the reserves to attack.

Indeed. Portraying Quintana as a wheelsucker is one of the most ridiculous memes in this forum. The guy went on a 50km attack only a couple of weeks ago. It's clear he's on the limit following Bernal here; not all riders gurn like Dumoulin or Martin when they are about to drop.

It's pretty much one of the truest memes on this forum.

It's not. Firstly, because anyone who uses the term 'wheelsucker' in reference to a cyclist's tactics, reveals themselves to be completely clueless about bike racing.

Secondly, because Quintana has won 37 races in his career without being able to sprint or TT. Suggesting he actually attacks quite a lot.

And thirdly, Quintana has gone on a 50km+ solo attack in major races pretty much every season of his career.

It's a tired old meme with no basis in reality.

For me a wheelsucker is someone who doesn't want to take turns in a group. Just because someone attacks doesn't mean he isn't a wheelsucker

 

[wirral]

The GC seems wrong. I can't understand how they have arrived at that.

 

[luckyboy]

I usually like Quintana but that was the worst I've seen from him. He didn't even take a turn with Bernal, never mind attacking. When Bernal got tired of doing all the work, Yates and then Lopez and Martin came back.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Bardet and Pinot sniffing each other's wheel during the whole climb.

There's work to do.

And plenty of time.

 

[yaco]

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It's Adam, not Simon.

I knew that the moment Kirby said it was Simon Yates

Except Kirby and Stephens were running from the graphics, as did the Cycling News live blog.

 

[glassmoon]

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I usually like Quintana but that was the worst I've seen from him. He didn't even take a turn with Bernal, never mind attacking. When Bernal got tired of doing all the work, Yates and then Lopez and Martin came back.

he's like that at least in 95% of the times

 

[Red Rick]

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Stuck in work, how did the dawg do??

Didn't see him get dropped but wasn't in any of the first groups either.

 

[RedheadDane]

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It's Adam, not Simon.

I knew that the moment Kirby said it was Simon Yates

Except Kirby and Stephens were running from the graphics, as did the Cycling News live blog.

At least they figured it out before the end. Imagine if the interviewer had been all; "Simon, congratulations."

 

[DFA123]

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For me a wheelsucker is someone who doesn't want to take pulls in a group. Just because someone attacks doesn't mean he isn't a wheelsucker

On the flat perhaps it is more of a pertinent label, but on a climb, the term 'wheelsucker' is ridiculous. When climbing, it's not wheelsucking to just hold someone's wheel because you are on the limit.

It would be crazy to take turns with someone who you know is stronger than you and will just attack the moment when you are at your weakest.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

Looked like there was a lot of wind. As for Nairoman, just because he looked effortless when following Bernal it doesn't mean he had the reserves to attack.

Indeed. Portraying Quintana as a wheelsucker is one of the most ridiculous memes in this forum. The guy went on a 50km attack only a couple of weeks ago. It's clear he's on the limit following Bernal here; not all riders gurn like Dumoulin or Martin when they are about to drop.

It's pretty much one of the truest memes on this forum.

It's not. Firstly, because anyone who uses the term 'wheelsucker' in reference to a cyclist's tactics, reveals themselves to be completely clueless about bike racing.

Secondly, because Quintana has won 37 races in his career without being able to sprint or TT. Suggesting he actually attacks quite a lot.

And thirdly, Quintana has gone on a 50km+ solo attack in major races pretty much every season of his career.

It's a tired old meme with no basis in reality.

For me a wheelsucker is someone who doesn't want to take turns in a group. Just because someone attacks doesn't mean he isn't a wheelsucker

Quintana never works in any group where riders are equally strong or close in GC. Sometimes you attack because it's the default decision, which is most of Quintana attacks.

I don't really remember any Quintana attack with a lot of negative implied odds, except maybe for Oropa where he went a little early but he really just got caught out by Dumoulin there.

 

[Poursuivant]

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Adam Yates to pip Quintana and Bernal

Sort of right.


RE Gc: won’t be easy to get rid of TDG, he is very tenacious.

 

[armchairclimber]

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For me a wheelsucker is someone who doesn't want to take pulls in a group. Just because someone attacks doesn't mean he isn't a wheelsucker

On the flat perhaps it is more of a pertinent label, but on a climb, the term 'wheelsucker' is ridiculous. When climbing, it's not wheelsucking to just hold someone's wheel because you are on the limit.

It would be crazy to take turns with someone who you know is stronger than you and will just attack the moment when you are at your weakest.

Except that in taking turns they might have had the finish to themselves instead of a five up sprint.

 

[Singer01]

Re: Re:

Looked like there was a lot of wind. As for Nairoman, just because he looked effortless when following Bernal it doesn't mean he had the reserves to attack.

Indeed. Portraying Quintana as a wheelsucker is one of the most ridiculous memes in this forum. The guy went on a 50km attack only a couple of weeks ago. It's clear he's on the limit following Bernal here; not all riders gurn like Dumoulin or Martin when they are about to drop.

It's pretty much one of the truest memes on this forum.

It's not. Firstly, because anyone who uses the term 'wheelsucker' in reference to a cyclist's tactics, reveals themselves to be completely clueless about bike racing.

Secondly, because Quintana has won 37 races in his career without being able to sprint or TT. Suggesting he actually attacks quite a lot.

And thirdly, Quintana has gone on a 50km+ solo attack in major races pretty much every season of his career.

It's a tired old meme with no basis in reality.

For me a wheelsucker is someone who doesn't want to take turns in a group. Just because someone attacks doesn't mean he isn't a wheelsucker

QFT, it was in his interest to contribute, he just hung around like a bad smell.

 

[DFA123]

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For me a wheelsucker is someone who doesn't want to take pulls in a group. Just because someone attacks doesn't mean he isn't a wheelsucker

On the flat perhaps it is more of a pertinent label, but on a climb, the term 'wheelsucker' is ridiculous. When climbing, it's not wheelsucking to just hold someone's wheel because you are on the limit.

It would be crazy to take turns with someone who you know is stronger than you and will just attack the moment when you are at your weakest.

Except that in taking turns they might have had the finish to themselves instead of a five up sprint.

If Quintana had started working hard enough to try to keep Yates away, Bernal would have attacked and dropped him like a stone.