Garmin are considering not to send Hushovd to the Vuelta, as a revenge for him leaving the team. Vaughters has been doing such all year with riders who were known to be leaving but to deny the world champion to ride the vuelta is pretty absurd.
Pretty usual, teams don't want to invest in riders that will leave the team anyway. Even more so when there's so much emphasis on WT points.maltiv said:
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theyoungest said:
Gesink not doing the vuelta? Why not? What will he be doing for the rest of the season?
auscyclefan94 said:
Colorado, 2 Canadian races, world championship and the autumn Italian classics.
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auscyclefan94 said:
he's gonna ride in service of others. he said it would be ideal as preparation for the october races..
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who for??????? don't mean to be rude but it seems to me that he would of been better off to drop out of the tour early, rest up and build for la vuelta instead of riding for the netherlands in a race which they don't really have a real leader to ride for or tbh a good chance in.
Yes, that would have been the logical thing to do. However, Gesink has a different opinion.auscyclefan94 said:
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Gesink has some national pride ;-)
Besides, he is one of the few Dutchies who can handle the distance of this race.
Besides, he is one of the few Dutchies who can handle the distance of this race.
Ah, that's why he didn't ride the Worlds last yearDekker_Tifosi said:
(a course which at least moderately would have suited him, unlike this year's)
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It is limited when he has to fly to Australia. Who can blame him?theyoungest said:Ah, that's why he didn't ride the Worlds last year
(a course which at least moderately would have suited him, unlike this year's)
ingsve said:
Menchov is also riding Burgos, but I don't expect anything from him in a warm-up race like that. Cobo was just behind Purito and Sanchez in the first two stages but he was reported to have had a mechanical in the TTT. We'll see tomorrow at Neila.
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el bisonte looked like in his prime,i'm curious if geox will go into vuelta with this kind of form
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up earlier in the thread, but does anyone have any thoughts on Phinney going for the Vuelta instead of the 'sentimental' Colorado race?
I see his comments about the chance to ride his first GT, but I'm thinking this should prove a quite interesting opportunity to see how he handles the toughness of the Vuelta...and a GT..
I, for one, was thinking that maybe he had been thinking a little too highly of himself and his talents , but maybe he has gotten some things sorted out and we will see what's up....
I see his comments about the chance to ride his first GT, but I'm thinking this should prove a quite interesting opportunity to see how he handles the toughness of the Vuelta...and a GT..
I, for one, was thinking that maybe he had been thinking a little too highly of himself and his talents , but maybe he has gotten some things sorted out and we will see what's up....
It might be regarded as ‘normal’ practice but I agree with Maltiv it is absurd in professional sport at this level. If Mr Stapleton wonders why sponsors are wary of committing to cycling, then look no further for one answer.theyoungest said:
I find it difficult to think of another sport who would consider leaving out the reigning WC who has just lead the team to their most successful results in the sports most prestigious event in a petulant fit of spite (Even in cycling I find it difficult to think of another professional team who would leave out the WC for the Vuelta after how he and the team performed in the Tdf! ) JV might not like it but who cares about Garmin -Cervelo Team without the publicity generated by Hushovd? Before considering leaving Hushovd out because he is looking elsewhere, what is or has JV done, pre or post the TdF if anything to try and keep him?
Unfortunately Garmin as a pro team will be able to compete Veulta without Hushovd, but I am sure both Vuelta organisers and UCI and sponsors will not be happy. So Mr Stapleton might want to answer this question. If it is considered ‘normal’ for the manager of a professional pro tour team to behave in such a vindictive and and unprofessional manner against a successful rider, what sponsor in their right mind would want to contribute to the sport?
It seems a perfectly reasonable business decision to me. It's investing in the riders from which you actually get to reap the results of the investment, and not in riders who will be your rivals next year. What's unprofessional about that?muscat said:
It happens in every team, every year. Now that it happens to the world champion, too bad, but what's the difference?
Well this thing about buying rider's points is just ridiculous and makes decisions like this almost acceptable. Imagine if Bjarne Riis refused to let the Schlecks ride the TDF and Astana refused to let Contador ride the TDF in 2010, just because they were leaving next year.theyoungest said:
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maltiv said:
a tour win matters for a team and a lot for the sponsors. its a different situation.
and again riders like contador and the schlecks are on a completely different level then hushovd. they are worth the sacrifice of world tour points to have them in the race contending for the win. thor isn't.
muscat said:
If UCI is not happy it's time for them to rethink their WT team ranking system and the rules to get entry at WT races.
theyoungest said:
No, it's not common practice. WC Fabian Cancellara abandoned the Vuelta last year of his own volition. He was in the Saxo Bank lineup, though, even though the Leopards were clearly in the works.
If JV won't let Hushovd ride the Vuelta this year he won't earn a lot of bonus points among the rest of the peloton. Hushovd's got a lot of friends, and if JV can treat the WC like that, what are the odds he'll treat a lot of lesser guys even worse. It'd be petty, vindictive and downright stoopid, and with Hushovd's performance at the Tour in mind, giving the team's sponsor any amount of exposure, it'd be the less intelligent thing to do. Hushovd will net the team a stage-win at the Vuelta, and for the life of me I really can't see that Garmin can afford such folly. Garmin next year won't be mustering that amount of quality. JV should eat big bowls of Humble Pie the next week, and realize that he's the leader of a great team, a team that would do good even without him in charge. If I were underwriting Garmin's checques I'd let Kurt Asle Arvesen take over, and it'd be a cheaper solution for Garmin, a better solution, a solution with a leader without the ghost of PEDs in the wings, and furthermore, a new leader with better know-how in tactical matters. JV has a high opinion of himself, and he's shown himself to be a gun for hire, only too happy to try to set up a parallel organization, sidelining the UCI. Next year we could very well be asking JV who? Hushovd OTOH, is etched onto the consciousness of every real fan of cycling. Hushovd'll ride the Vuelta, or JV can start looking for a new job.
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