Vuelta a España - Stage 17 - Peñafiel individual time trial, 46 km

[insideout leadout]

Thing is, he wasn't. They were soft peddling up the mountains.

Even when they didn't he was still up there....I guess he was lucky or something...

 

[The Hitch]

Thing is, he wasn't. They were soft peddling up the mountains.

They were soft pedaling up mountains this year.
Just like 10, 09 had a or 2 mountain stages that were contested and he was up there. Also he was up there with an elite group of 7 or 8 on Ventoux. However unexpected and strange it was, it was a good performance. He beat the likes of Cuddles and Menchov in getting 4th, and only lost out to 3rd place and Lance by a few seconds, having lost 40 in the ttt, and 40 in the george hincapie break.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Lets get this thread back on track as Susan or one of her puppets (moderators) may get mad!

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Puppets? Puppets? Watch it, the other mods may not like that....



Susan

 

[hrotha]

Bah, 15 minutes before the stage starts, and at least we're using this thread for something not completely naughty!

 

[The Hitch]

Lets get this thread back on track as Susan or one of her puppets (moderators) may get mad!

All right, lets get it back on track.

Are you the first person to reach the 7000 mark?

 

[sublimit]

Lets get this thread back on track as Susan or one of her puppets (moderators) may get mad!

I've noticed you've already derailed the TOB thread so yeah thanks.

Why do people think you can compare times of different Grand Tours? Even Wiggins was up there in 2009...

Dumb comment.

 

[Sophistic]

Cancellara
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Nibali/Schleck + 2:00
Mosquera + 3:00
Rodriguez + 4:00

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I think VdB could've won this Vuelta after Anton dropping out. Perhaps even without it, but I don't know how Anton time trials.

The good thing about VdB is, he needs less team support then some other riders to be up there in the mountain stages.

vdb is dead and don't ever call that other guy by that name

 

[Ney the Viking]

I can't really put my finger on exactly why, but I would peg this one for Larsson just a few seconds ahead of Spartacus.

Does anyone have a schedule handy for the start times of the interesting riders? Eg top ten GC and possible stage win contesters?

 

[El Pistolero]

I've noticed you've already derailed the TOB thread so yeah thanks.




Dumb comment.

It would be a dumb comment if Wiggins actually performed will this Tour. He didn't and he didn't have any bad luck either. Unless he performs well next year I call his 2009 Tour a fluke.

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When does Cancellara start?

 

[Ney the Viking]

Oh and how about the weather? Any changes emminemt, or same conditions likely for all guys?

 

[Fourier]

Let's talk about the real story here, Tommy D's vs. CVV's performance.

 

[roundabout]

Cancellara starts at 13.54. Start times have probably been posted in this thread before but here it is again

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=30454

Ticker says it might get windier as the day goes on. Forecasts don't suggest much wind.

 

[ingsve]

Oh and how about the weather? Any changes emminemt, or same conditions likely for all guys?

I read that the winds will possibly favour Cancellara.

 

[insideout leadout]

I can't really put my finger on exactly why, but I would peg this one for Larsson just a few seconds ahead of Spartacus.

Does anyone have a schedule handy for the start times of the interesting riders? Eg top ten GC and possible stage win contesters?

Take a look at the H2H stats between Cancellara and Larsson. Not sure why Larsson is so hyped right now, this course isn't even suited for him. He likes hard and technical TTs. But hey a surprise is always welcome

 

[search]

I read that the winds will possibly favour Cancellara.

there is a 180° turn after half of the course, so it's gonna be headwind and tailwind each for about ~50% of the time. I don't think it should favor anyone in a crucial way if it get's more windy or not

 

[sublimit]

It would be a dumb comment if Wiggins actually performed will this Tour. He didn't and he didn't have any bad luck either. Unless he performs well next year I call his 2009 Tour a fluke.

You sounded surprised he came well up in an ITT???

 

[Ney the Viking]

Take a look at the H2H stats between Cancellara and Larsson. Not sure why Larsson is so hyped right now, this course isn't even suited for him. He likes hard and technical TTs. But hey a surprise is always welcome

Well it is more of a gutfeeling than anything else But so far he seems to be in a bit better shape, though Spartacus may just have been pacing himself, and he did show promise helping Frank the other other day, so definitly going to be tight.

 

[neineinei]

Cancellara starts at 13.54. Start times have probably been posted in this thread before but here it is again

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=30454

Ticker says it might get windier as the day goes on. Forecasts don't suggest much wind.

Count Hushovd (46º 7 HUSHOVD, Thor Cervelo Test Team 14:26) out. He quit and went home after the Cotobello stage. (Said he was in good form for the Worlds now and didn't want to ruin it by finishing the Vuelta.)

 

[TourOfSardinia]

First few off

I think we've got Bos, Cavendish & John Walker (camera-hog) out before Cancellara


V. Iglinskiy (KAZ, AST)
Labbe (FRA, COF)
L. Bak (DEN, THR)
Do. Klemme (DUI, SAX)
Bos (NED, CTT)
J.J. Haedo (ARG, SAX)
Montenegro (ARG, ACA)
Cavendish (GBR, THR)
J. Walker (AUS, FOT)
M. Ignatiev (RUS, KAT)
M. Kreder (NED, GRM)
Guarnieri (ITA, LIQ)
Stauff (DUI, QST)
Cancellara (ZWI, SAX) ++++++++

 

[icefire]

I think we've got Bos, Cavendish & John Walker (camera-hog) out before Cancellara


V. Iglinskiy (KAZ, AST)
Labbe (FRA, COF)
L. Bak (DEN, THR)
Do. Klemme (DUI, SAX)
Bos (NED, CTT)
J.J. Haedo (ARG, SAX)
Montenegro (ARG, ACA)
Cavendish (GBR, THR)
J. Walker (AUS, FOT)
M. Ignatiev (RUS, KAT)
M. Kreder (NED, GRM)
Guarnieri (ITA, LIQ)
Stauff (DUI, QST)
Cancellara (ZWI, SAX) ++++++++

Wow, Fabo improved his GC placing quite a bit in the Cotobello stage.

He was 4th from last at the beginning of the stage, and he was asked whether he planned to give up some time to start first in the ITT and become the first man to win an ITT being the first to start. Nah, I need someone to overtake, he said

 

[insideout leadout]

Cavendish in the lead by the first check.

 

[Wergeland]

Okay, I think I've just become a Sastre hater after reading this:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sastre-takes-setbacks-in-his-stride

Seriously? You slam Deignan and Denifl, who apparently had to quit due to an illness (definitely in the case of Denifl, not sure about Deignan), and you complain about not having the cards to do a tactical race... all of that while you didn't do anything to help Tondo when his position was much better than yours, but rather attacked at a time when riding tempo benefitted your team mate the most? Don't you think you could try some interesting tactics if you hadn't contributed to Tondo's GC worsening? I thought Cervélo's team looked great in Seville. I honestly have no idea who else you'd have wanted for support, looks to me like the team's best GT riders were there. Cuesta, Florencio, Deignan, Tondo, Pujol... You wanted Gustov? Already supported you at the Giro and Tour. You wanted Klier, Hammond or some other rider for the flat? I doubt it. Sounds to me like you decided to be petty about Hushovd having goals that differ from yours.

Damn, this reads like I actually expect Sastre to read this.

Why is he complaining now? At the tour Hushovd had his guys there to help him (Roulsten, Lancaster) At Vuelta it looks like Sastre has gotten his guys while Hushovd is left to his own.

 

[Fourier]

spartacus with an aprox 51kph avg for the first 15km