yet jumbo has won exactly 0 GT this year.The Jumbots are ruining the Grand Tours! The UCI has to reduce team sizes!
Heck they only won Ain as GC with Roglic?
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yet jumbo has won exactly 0 GT this year.The Jumbots are ruining the Grand Tours! The UCI has to reduce team sizes!
Eventually, Soler didn't win and lost quite a lot of earned time. Playing games with Gaudu.Enric Mas (Movistar Team): “It was our plan, to have Marc [Soler] at the front so he can try to win the stage and gain some time on GC.
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He probably didn't mean ruining them by winning them. But ruining them with the tactics they use while riding them.yet jumbo has won exactly 0 GT this year.
Heck they only won Ain as GC with Roglic?
Yes, Roglić is the strongest. And he was in the TdF either. Until stage 20.The intensity plays a huge role. Roglic tried to win the Tour de l'Ain, the Criterium Dauphine Libere, the Tour de France the World Championship and Liege-Bastogne-Liege and had to produce a lot of excellent efforts. I have a nice database of climbing times (of course it does not contain all climbs, but a lot). One can count how long a rider rode 6W/kg and so on climbs I measured this year:
W/kg Roglic Carapaz Mas Martin Carthy >8 3:38 0 0 2:46 0 >7.5 7:29 0 0 2:46 0 >7 14:58 0 0 2:46 0 >6.5 2:05:36 1:56:34 1:31:16 38:07 1:11:16 >6 4:52:42 3:37:37 6:02:41 1:50:52 3:26:58 >5.5 9:17:17 6:08:29 8:19:03 3:33:58 4:00:48
This means that Roglic rode at least 5.5 W/kg for 9 hours 17 minutes and 17 seconds and so on.
I did not noticed that Mas had a long Season, too. However, Roglic had a lot more high intensity efforts.
They tried to win the stage and to gain time, they almost did both, so hardly looked funny...I agree - problem is, when you see five Jumbos while you yourself are on your own you probably don't feel like attacking. Roglic and the Jumbos are just the strongest. Movistar tried something today, it looked a bit funny again, but I have to admit, they actually tried. They just have the weaker riders.
Yes, but Roglic is also a lot better rider too...I did not noticed that Mas had a long Season, too. However, Roglic had a lot more high intensity efforts.
I was asking myself the same thing, something is wrong with him. He has been of no help in this Vuelta.BTW Sosa finished 36 minutes down, even behind Cameron Wurf who worked a lot at the front through the stage. Either he's sick or in the worst shape of his life.
Kirby was trying to tell a story about a Sporza commentator that died then he realised he'd forgotten the name and forgot about that story.very boring stage.
and wtf can't english commentators pronounce Gaudu's name correctly? It's really not hard.
The Jumbots are ruining the Grand Tours! The UCI has to reduce team sizes!
It helps that it's a Dutch team not winning with Dutch riders and the star Slovenian lost the Tour to another SlovenianAt least they're only ruining Grand Tours and not creating legions of annoying fanboys swarming world of cycling, unlike.....
It helps that it's a Dutch team not winning with Dutch riders and the star Slovenian lost the Tour to another Slovenian
It was one Tour, which they lost. Yeah Tour de l'Ain and Dauphine were bad, but whatever.Probably. After all I think decades of torture from two previous teams has made Jumbo's style no longer as annoying, especially that they didn't suddenly come big out of nowhere with pretentious reinventing cycling images whatever ***.
It was one Tour, which they lost. Yeah Tour de l'Ain and Dauphine were bad, but whatever.
Roglic doesn't have the inevitable feeling that Froome had. It's actually possible to attack him, today the other guys just chose not to.
Now there's a Vuelta with an arguably weak field where Jumbo did go missing once or twice and where they've hardly totally ripped it. They jsut systematically have 3 guys in the last 15 with Kuss and Bennett. Not totally unheard of.
The Movistar bashing and memeing is getting out of hand. They put Soler in prime position to gain time in GC and win the stage. Gaudu is an amazing climber, it's no shame to narrowly lose against him on a MTF.
Granted, Soler will probably pay for today tomorrow but they were at least doing something and not just riding the train and then sprint at the finish.
If you'd ask me who'd do this time on Farrapona in 2020 I'd probably have said Contador
Having ridden a similar amount of miles, doesn't mean they have the same amount of fatigue though. Martin and Carapaz didn't have to be fully alert every day of the Tour for instance. And in Roglic's case there's definitely more of a mental exhaustion in play as well.
The intensity plays a huge role. Roglic tried to win the Tour de l'Ain, the Criterium Dauphine Libere, the Tour de France the World Championship and Liege-Bastogne-Liege and had to produce a lot of excellent efforts. I have a nice database of climbing times (of course it does not contain all climbs, but a lot). One can count how long a rider rode 6W/kg and so on climbs I measured this year:
W/kg Roglic Carapaz Mas Martin Carthy >8 3:38 0 0 2:46 0 >7.5 7:29 0 0 2:46 0 >7 14:58 0 0 2:46 0 >6.5 2:05:36 1:56:34 1:31:16 38:07 1:11:16 >6 4:52:42 3:37:37 6:02:41 1:50:52 3:26:58 >5.5 9:17:17 6:08:29 8:19:03 3:33:58 4:00:48
This means that Roglic rode at least 5.5 W/kg for 9 hours 17 minutes and 17 seconds and so on.
I did not noticed that Mas had a long Season, too. However, Roglic had a lot more high intensity efforts.