Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2024, stage 15: Infiesto - Cuitu Negru, 142.9k

[BeachBum]

It always blows my mind that people don't realize what happens to your mind when you go that deep.

My brother in law did RAAM years ago and fell asleep twice while riding, luckily no big damage from the subsequent crashes.

 

[tobydawq]

Cuitu Negru is really fun as unipuerto finish on stage 11.

Its not so much fun if it is the stage where you expect the biggest gaps to happen

Good thing it wasn't then.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Did Gall walk up the climb?

Good decision for him to lose a lot of time so he can go in break and try to win stages. He's probably not gonna help O'Connor much anyway.

 

[memyselfandI]

Just watched last climb as I was away elsewhere at the end of the race. Jeebs what a finale, Castrillo crazy crazy stuff going there, loved how he manhandled Vlasov in the end, total immersion!!

Superstrong Mas, but great fightback from Roglic. And. And. Triple thumbs up to Roglic how he gave nice FU slaps in interview for those unbelievably stupid questions.

Saw on live Roglic drafting thing, was not that special me thinks, can't really understand the penalty? Well you get them if socks are too high and if you stop to give kiss to your gf, normally, no? Why penalty for drafting, as it was short and obviously meaningless, not a game changer, not a WC road or monument one day?

 

[tobydawq]

Good decision for him to lose a lot of time so he can go in break and try to win stages. He's probably not gonna help O'Connor much anyway.

As long as O'Connor has the jersey, that obviously isn't happening.

 

[Unchained]

He absolutely gained an advantage. Why else would he do it?

You see him jamming up the hill, bike set up for ultimate few kilometers easier ratios put him at an obvious advantage, it's only a grannie gear if you are a granny..
Roglic is fun to watch almost always looks like he has a plan and is following it.. Having the spare bike at the ready, having the legs and position to jump on a new bike is crafty and confidence, competent. When you have plan A,B,C...it just shows you are ready for good and bad..

 

[Lequack]

Just saw a replay from today, couldn't watch it live. What a ride today from Castrillas, he is the real deal it seems. This is a great signing for Ineos.

But the reporters just attacked him after the finish. Let the man brathe!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830342953258111432

View: https://twitter.com/HubertMontoyaC/status/1830342953258111432

 

[Ricco']

Why do journalists really think we want to listen to what a rider has to say? "Hard day, never thought this could happen, my journey had a lot of hardships to reach this, this victory is for my team and friends, etc. etc."

Let me see instead how the rider celebrates with his entourage, how happy he is, how the other riders react, show the replay of how it happened. So much more interesting that the vague points a flash interview can give.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Small differences. Roglic attacked too early, maybe he was overconfident but it is normal due to his insane stage before yesterday

 

[Lequack]

And some more pics

 

[del1962]

Definatel deserved the penalty, the drafting was blatant, should have had his team mates on the bumper and him behind them

Anyway I think stage 16 might give bigger time gaps, as the steeper sections are both more normal and near the bottom of the climb, definately a stage to have teammates up the road

 

[Danskebjerge]

Definatel deserved the penalty, the drafting was blatant, should have had his team mates on the bumper and him behind them

No doubt about it. I actually thought about exactly that when it happened: Is he going to use the cars to get back to the peloton again? And that was exactly what he did. Good call to penalize him. If you want to spend time changing your bike, then you'll also have to spend energy reducing the time gap you created.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

As long as O'Connor has the jersey, that obviously isn't happening.

“hi Ben, I’m going in the break to be a defensive satellite rider, sounds good eh?”

“Oh sorry Ben, we had 10 minutes, so I just went for it”

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just watched the entire stage, as just my 2nd stage watch of this Vuelta edition.
Incredible stage. Just incredible.
And Castrillo. Missed the stage of his 1st Vuelta win.
Instant fan here.

 

[Sciatic]

He deserved the penalty, but I wish that the race judges were more consistent with drafting penalties.

Welll put.

 

[Sciatic]

This is a fan forum, not the UN. I don't have to answer such questions regarding bias versus non bias. Of course I'm a Rog fan. I mean hello? Meanwhile can you guarentee everyone happy right now with the commissaire decision is an impartial bystander who only cares about "ze rules"? I don't think so.

Bias cuts both way.



They were coming back into the peloton with or without the car draft. That's the context. He swapped bikes immediately after a nature break.

At most they made a mistake using the car to help him back in, especially considering the punishment for their 'crime'.

But let's not pretend the car draft was decisive. It wasn't. Without the car he was still getting right back into his spot in the bunch without sticking his nose in the wind on the wheels of his teammates (aka teammates who dropped as soon as the climb got serious anyway so they were of no further use in the stage & did not influence anything).

Why not a yellow card instead?

 

[Red Rick]

Why not a yellow card instead?

That does nothing, so you only get them when you cause a crash.

In reality, the punishment systemis is ridiuclous in the first place cause they fine and give time/points punishments which only hurt riders aiming for that specific thing anyway.

 

[Sciatic]

No doubt about it. I actually thought about exactly that when it happened: Is he going to use the cars to get back to the peloton again? And that was exactly what he did. Good call to penalize him. If you want to spend time changing your bike, then you'll also have to spend energy reducing the time gap you created.

Bora created the problem by:
1. Deciding to do the bike change
2. Doing it so close to the start of the climb when T Rex was already ramping up the pace. Wouldn’t need the draft ( and wouldn’t be as noticeable if they did) if they did the change 5-10 kms earlier when guys were still taking rolling pee breaks..

 

[firefly3323]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yIR3NU3P_bU

Also illegal use of team car

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Juaristi is heavier looking than I would have imagined...

 

[saunaking]

Because he gained no advantage? I mean WTF. He was in the peloton safely, swapped safely and then returned safely.

If GC is decided by this penalty (which I don't think it will be) then sh*t.

Gained no advantage???????????
So why did he bother?
Duh so he didn't have to waste energy returning to the front after deciding to bike change

 

[saunaking]

Was kind of stupid plan, even with the bit of drafting the team car, he still had to ride pretty hard just to get back to the peloton 2 km before the climb started. Strange decision but Bora has made many strange ones in this race.

Totally.
Why didn't he just change bikes at a piss break with 50k to go?

 

[saunaking]

I mean... this conversation is going round in circles here.

No circles. Just one clueless dude making a ridiculous argument

 

[saunaking]

I'll play ball for a second but tact refers to context. If Rog had been caught in a split & drafted to get back on, then fine, yes. But that's not what happened. It's not the first time this season there's been an overly zealous decision by the commissaires either. Josh Tarling's own misadventure in Paris-Roubaix springs to mind.

I mean look, everyone can hide behind the almighty 'rule book' as much as they want but we all know it's enforced (at best) inconsistently & mostly not at all.

So yeah, great job 'commissaires' *clap clap here's your applause*... although I'd hazard a guess on Tuesday everything will be back to business as usual & no one will get punished for the usual 'transgressions' which occur at every point of a normal road race stage in cycling.

tact is politeness. How is this even part of the conversation here.

Also - are you the guy that wrote the Jumbo Visma statement condemning Fred Wright's dangerous riding a few years back?

 

[saunaking]

They should be applied consistently across the board or not at all. Especially for something so trivial which didn't violate the fairness of proceedings.

But don't mess with GC one week from Madrid on a technicality. Not when (as I've said a billion times already) sticky bottles, irregular behavior in the bunch and all that cr*p goes completely unpunished everywhere.

Absolutely no one applauding this decision this evening can say with a straight face the rules are enforced equally every day in this Grand Tour no matter the rider or the infringement. It just doesn't happen.

How are you comparing this with Sticky Bottles??????

This is more like a Vincenzo Nibali 2015 Vuelta sticky bottle.