When is the smackdown on Chris Horner?

[webvan]

Interesting article on Frishkorn, pretty consistent with the believable reports over the years...wonder how he got along with Vandevelde though at Garmin based on what he currently thinks of "ex-dopers who got rich".

Sounds like Levi here :
"Frischkorn mentions one well-known American rider who enjoyed exactly that kind of lift, who won a lot of major races over the years, and consequently enjoyed considerable success", but maybe not since his name appears at the end of the article so why not here...too specific?

 

[del1962]

Interesting article on Frishkorn, pretty consistent with the believable reports over the years...wonder how he got along with Vandevelde though at Garmin based on what he currently thinks of "ex-dopers who got rich".

Sounds like Levi here :
"Frischkorn mentions one well-known American rider who enjoyed exactly that kind of lift, who won a lot of major races over the years, and consequently enjoyed considerable success", but maybe not since his name appears at the end of the article so why not here...too specific?

If your name is in the USADA documents unredacted as a doper, then the name will appear here, so it won't be Levi, Hincapie or the Garmin 4.

 

[ggusta]

 

[the sceptic]

Will Frischkorn

http://www.theouterline.com/perspectives-on-doping-in-pro-cycling-3-will-frischkorn/



Will might not say his name but I will, it was Chris Horner.

How do you know its Horner? Could be Danielson as well.

Sure, there will always be people who cheat, but they’re beginning to stand out more like a sore thumb; the rest of the peloton knows about them, or they’re just not very good. They’re not going to be as much of a factor in the future, Frischkorn says.

JV is that you?

 

[thehog]

How do you know its Horner? Could be Danielson as well.



JV is that you?

JV your friendly neighbourhood doper. Horner, evil bad doper. Danielson, the biggest hack to ever enter cycling made better by drugs, good doper.

 

[Tinman]

JV your friendly neighbourhood doper.

Hog you still going underground at Garmin next few weeks?

 

[Race Radio]

Horner, evil bad doper.

Says the guy who started this thread.....

 

[thehog]

Hog you still going underground at Garmin next few weeks?

I will if JV will still have me. But I pay my own way. And the article will only be a thread in the Clinic. I will go in peace and as an observer. Let's see what comes.

Back to Horner. I think he's talking smack again:

But I don’t really care. I'm going to give it a go and see. In bike racing, you don't need 100 percent form to win, you don't always need to be the best.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/horner-hoping-to-find-his-form-at-the-tour-de-france

 

[the sceptic]

I will if JV will still have me. But I pay my own way. And the article will only be a thread in the Clinic. I will go in peace and as an observer. Let's see what comes.

Back to Horner. I think he's talking smack again:



http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/horner-hoping-to-find-his-form-at-the-tour-de-france

I hope he will peak for the vuelta, so we can get a Dawg-Horner showdown to finally find out who is the best, without tailwinds.

 

[Tinman]

Back to Horner. I think he's talking smack again:



http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/horner-hoping-to-find-his-form-at-the-tour-de-france

With his old age I think we will see him getting stronger after each of the rest days. Maybe even win a mountain top in week 3.

 

[Energy Starr]

I hope he will peak for the vuelta, so we can get a Dawg-Horner showdown to finally find out who is the best, without tailwinds.

Isn't Contador riding the Vuelta....I'm guessing he'll spoil that party.

 

[DirtyWorks]

How do you know its Horner? Could be Danielson as well.

Really? Too many stories corroborate for it NOT to be Horner.

 

[SeriousSam]

With his old age I think we will see him getting stronger after each of the rest days. Maybe even win a mountain top in week 3.

Yeah those doped late twenties riders can't hope to recover as swiftly as 42 year old clean Horner. He'll be very strong in the third week.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

If the forum was "inherently" anti Froome then there would have been threads about Froome before he overnight turned himself into the most physiologically dominant cyclist that ever lived.

I think however that if you search for clinic references for Froome pre August 2011, you'll get as many hits as you'll find of Froome's references of Bilharzia before he decided he needed an excuse- 0

Same goes for Sky. You'll find a strong correlation between them lying through their teeth and their popularity in the clinic.

Which proves there's nothing inherently anti Sky or Froome here at all. Just anti lying and cheating.

It is true that some posters had a more positive reaction to Froome crashing out than Contador. That's just 1 or 2 posters though hardly the whole clinic.

Me I feel far worse about Contador crashing out cos I really wanted a verified doper to win the Tour just to laugh at the apologists and hypocrites trying to sing the "new era" song with a Contador win following the evans, froome and wiggins ones. It makes me really upset atm that a total fluke has robbed me of that, maybe for ever.
But I still was upset that Froome crashed out. I wanted to see his clearly doped performances go under scrutiny again.

Hitch there is still plenty to see from Valv-Piti and famous one-leg-rider-Horner... Thus you don´t have to be upset.

 

[The Hitch]

Hitch there is still plenty to see from Valv-Piti and famous one-leg-rider-Horner... Thus you don´t have to be upset.

They are not going to win. Contador very well might have.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

They are not going to win. Contador very well might have.

So for you only "winning" dopers matter, even if the let´s say 17th on CG is more absurd?

 

[The Hitch]

So for you only "winning" dopers matter, even if the let´s say 17th on CG is more absurd?

As I said. I want a verified doper to win the tour de France because it would destroy the argument the hypocrites make about it being a new era. I don't care who comes 17th on gc. It's a meaningless position.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

As I said. I want a verified doper to win the tour de France because it would destroy the argument the hypocrites make about it being a new era. I don't care who comes 17th on gc. It's a meaningless position.

And what if that guy currently sits 17th improves to 3rd, and then goes on to win the Vuelta again?

 

[Granville57]

And what if that guy currently sits 17th improves to 3rd, and then goes on to win the Vuelta?

...again.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

...again.

Thanks... Corrected my post.

 

[The Hitch]

And what if that guy currently sits 17th improves to 3rd, and then goes on to win the Vuelta again?

The guy in 17th is not a verified doper.

And the chances of him finishing 3rd are tiny. Winning vuelta, even smaller.

 

[Granville57]

The guy in 17th is not a verified doper.

Foxxy and I always knew Horner was clean.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

The guy in 17th is not a verified doper.

And the chances of him finishing 3rd are tiny. Winning vuelta, even smaller.

As the guy you described "I wanted to see his clearly doped performances go under scrutiny again" is also no verified doper. Thus, sorry to say that, your post is full of hypocrisy. Even though you described others as ones in that same post.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Foxxy and I always knew Horner was clean.

And we forever will , even when he is caught finishing a stage somewhere in Jamaica training at age 411...

 

[Granville57]

I wonder how far we can play this out.

Hitch vouching for Horner.

Foxxy vouching for Contador.



I'll vouch for Klöden.