DFA123 said:The Chicken said:You can get Valverde @ 100/1 currently. :-O
As an each way bet (i.e. to finish in the top 3) that is amazing. He pretty much always makes the final selection - even if he rarely wins![]()
movingtarget said:Degenkolb. Matthews could do well. Cancellara may get another podium and start complaining as soon as he hits the finish line. Or if it's too hot, too cold or too wet he may not start.
Sure Kwiatkowski must attack on the last descent. If not, they will bring the super domestique Terpstra instead of him for Cav's train. Kwiatkowski himself even did a recon on the course early on.alspacka said:I like Cav but I'm hoping QS don't put all their eggs in his basket for the sake of the race. Difficult to see any escape making it with that lot chasing them down.
DFA123 said:The Chicken said:You can get Valverde @ 100/1 currently. :-O
As an each way bet (i.e. to finish in the top 3) that is amazing. He pretty much always makes the final selection - even if he rarely wins![]()
Angliru said:DFA123 said:The Chicken said:You can get Valverde @ 100/1 currently. :-O
As an each way bet (i.e. to finish in the top 3) that is amazing. He pretty much always makes the final selection - even if he rarely wins![]()
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Valverde won more often last year than he finished 2nd or 3rd. To say he rarely wins, even with a smiley face, does him a disservice and for some reason annoys the hell out of me! He likely wins more often than his fellow grand tour/stage racing/hilly classic rivals. Okay, I've vented and I feel better now.
I am so hoping he wins so I can witness the forum explode and crash.![]()
Angliru said:Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Valverde won more often last year than he finished 2nd or 3rd. To say he rarely wins, even with a smiley face, does him a disservice and for some reason annoys the hell out of me! He likely wins more often than his fellow grand tour/stage racing/hilly classic rivals. Okay, I've vented and I feel better now.
I am so hoping he wins so I can witness the forum explode and crash.![]()
DFA123 said:Angliru said:Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Valverde won more often last year than he finished 2nd or 3rd. To say he rarely wins, even with a smiley face, does him a disservice and for some reason annoys the hell out of me! He likely wins more often than his fellow grand tour/stage racing/hilly classic rivals. Okay, I've vented and I feel better now.
I am so hoping he wins so I can witness the forum explode and crash.![]()
I'm a big fan of Valverde and would love it for him to win as well. But his recent win to podium ratio is pretty poor in the most prestigious one day races.
I think since his come back his results in classics (including Strade Bianche) and world championships are two wins compared with ten second or third places. Plus another three podiums in the Vuelta!
Hopefully he'll be given a free hand and won't just be riding for Lobato.
bala v said:DFA123 said:Angliru said:Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Valverde won more often last year than he finished 2nd or 3rd. To say he rarely wins, even with a smiley face, does him a disservice and for some reason annoys the hell out of me! He likely wins more often than his fellow grand tour/stage racing/hilly classic rivals. Okay, I've vented and I feel better now.
I am so hoping he wins so I can witness the forum explode and crash.![]()
I'm a big fan of Valverde and would love it for him to win as well. But his recent win to podium ratio is pretty poor in the most prestigious one day races.
I think since his come back his results in classics (including Strade Bianche) and world championships are two wins compared with ten second or third places. Plus another three podiums in the Vuelta!
Hopefully he'll be given a free hand and won't just be riding for Lobato.
You do realize how hard is to even finish on the podium of biggest one-day races! Valverde classics results in last 2-3 seasons are perhaps only bettered by Cancellara. He stands above everyone else
I expect him to try something or at least be with any group that tries something on the Poggio. He's almost never anonymous, after all. That said, I don't think it'll work. Think this is one for the sprinters though I'd be happily be proven wrong.bala v said:DFA123 said:Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Valverde won more often last year than he finished 2nd or 3rd. To say he rarely wins, even with a smiley face, does him a disservice and for some reason annoys the hell out of me! He likely wins more often than his fellow grand tour/stage racing/hilly classic rivals. Okay, I've vented and I feel better now.
I am so hoping he wins so I can witness the forum explode and crash.![]()
I'm a big fan of Valverde and would love it for him to win as well. But his recent win to podium ratio is pretty poor in the most prestigious one day races.
I think since his come back his results in classics (including Strade Bianche) and world championships are two wins compared with ten second or third places. Plus another three podiums in the Vuelta!
Hopefully he'll be given a free hand and won't just be riding for Lobato.
Agreed. Some people only value wins but high placings, particularly podiums, in tough races are important and great results in of themselves.Angliru said:You do realize how hard is to even finish on the podium of biggest one-day races! Valverde classics results in last 2-3 seasons are perhaps only bettered by Cancellara. He stands above everyone else
jaylew said:I expect him to try something or at least be with any group that tries something on the Poggio. He's almost never anonymous, after all. That said, I don't think it'll work. Think this is one for the sprinters though I'd be happily be proven wrong.bala v said:DFA123 said:Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Valverde won more often last year than he finished 2nd or 3rd. To say he rarely wins, even with a smiley face, does him a disservice and for some reason annoys the hell out of me! He likely wins more often than his fellow grand tour/stage racing/hilly classic rivals. Okay, I've vented and I feel better now.
I am so hoping he wins so I can witness the forum explode and crash.![]()
I'm a big fan of Valverde and would love it for him to win as well. But his recent win to podium ratio is pretty poor in the most prestigious one day races.
I think since his come back his results in classics (including Strade Bianche) and world championships are two wins compared with ten second or third places. Plus another three podiums in the Vuelta!
Hopefully he'll be given a free hand and won't just be riding for Lobato.
Agreed. Some people only value wins but high placings, particularly podiums, in tough races are important and great results in of themselves.Angliru said:You do realize how hard is to even finish on the podium of biggest one-day races! Valverde classics results in last 2-3 seasons are perhaps only bettered by Cancellara. He stands above everyone else
bala v said:You do realize how hard is to even finish on the podium of biggest one-day races! Valverde classics results in last 2-3 seasons are perhaps only bettered by Cancellara. He stands above everyone else
Netserk said:He's not even in the top-5 for the last three years. I don't get how anyone can place him above (Canc), Boonen, Gerrans, Purito and Martin.
I'd have him above all those guys but you and I view this kind of thing differently.Netserk said:He's not even in the top-5 for the last three years. I don't get how anyone can place him above (Canc), Boonen, Gerrans, Purito and Martin.