Who wins the 2016 Tour?

[LaFlorecita]

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holy **** cow not another thread where these fanboys start guessing the team sky line up

Could be worse, we could have contador fans taking about Froome suit choice

Are you also this boring in real life it's just a bit of fun, do you think we actually care what Froome wears, of course not

 

[rick james]

You seem to care

 

[LaFlorecita]

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You seem to care

It is a joke. J.O.K.E.

 

[Miburo]

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holy **** cow not another thread where these fanboys start guessing the team sky line up

Could be worse, we could have contador fans taking about Froome suit choice

I never talked about it, but let's be real, looks *** disgusting lol

 

[DBotero]

Very good route for Quitana again,but i don't think he'll get it.Froome will add another TDF on his palmares.

 

[gunara]

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holy **** cow not another thread where these fanboys start guessing the team sky line up

Could be worse, we could have contador fans taking about Froome suit choice

Nothing gets close to guessing Sky GT line up, there's even poster specializing in it, it's one of those cycling-related fetishes.

 

[Singer01]

Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

 

[doperhopper]

Don't want to spoil the party, but is Zakarin going to be finally unleashed at the Tour?

 

[May0maniac]

Don't want to spoil the party, but is Zakarin going to be finally unleashed at the Tour?

Soviet Froome seems like bad weather, I would like to see him riding the Giro, Zakarin going toe to toe with Nibali and Landa would be great to watch.

 

[bassano]

Don't want to spoil the party, but is Zakarin going to be finally unleashed at the Tour?

Soviet Froome seems like bad weather, I would like to see him riding the Giro, Zakarin going toe to toe with Nibali and Landa would be great to watch.

He is not even real GC contender, how you can sey something like this. Land is way better and not mention Nibali

 

[del1962]

Not sure why Aru was included in the poll without a host of others

 

[Velolover2]

Don't want to spoil the party, but is Zakarin going to be finally unleashed at the Tour?

I'd love to see that. I think he could do very well on the first MTF. He is like Spilak and Porte I think. A brutal force early in the GTs and week-day races, but might fade later on.

But I don't know if he is programmed to last longer than a week but it would be a fun sight for sure.

 

[Der Effe]

Don't want to spoil the party, but is Zakarin going to be finally unleashed at the Tour?

Soviet Froome seems like bad weather, I would like to see him riding the Giro, Zakarin going toe to toe with Nibali and Landa would be great to watch.

He is not even real GC contender, how you can sey something like this. Land is way better and not mention Nibali

Lol neither is Froome. Ilnur the Great is gonna own 2016 so hard

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

And nothing Froome has shown points to him being able to beat Contador when both are at their absolute peak.
We haven't seen them go head to head in a GT when both are in great shape. 2014 Vuelta would be closest.

 

[Singer01]

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Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

And nothing Froome has shown points to him being able to beat Contador when both are at their absolute peak.
We haven't seen them go head to head in a GT when both are in great shape. 2014 Vuelta would be closest.

i would say if they are both at their peak, there is almost nothing between them in the mountains, froome is a better time trialist. however my argument is based on the assumption that contador is moving away from his physical peak, while froome is smack bang in the middle of his.
i have to disagree, 2014 vuelta showed nothing, other than contador is as savvy as f'ck and recovers from horrific injuries like a Trojan.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

And nothing Froome has shown points to him being able to beat Contador when both are at their absolute peak.
We haven't seen them go head to head in a GT when both are in great shape. 2014 Vuelta would be closest.

Yet the bookies still favor Froome a lot more than Contador...

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

And nothing Froome has shown points to him being able to beat Contador when both are at their absolute peak.
We haven't seen them go head to head in a GT when both are in great shape. 2014 Vuelta would be closest.

Yet the bookies still favor Froome a lot more than Contador...

The bookies just want to earn as much money as possible. I do not value their opinion at all. Anyone could come up with those odds. You just have to look at last year's Tour results. It means absolutely zero for next year's results.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Not sure why Aru was included in the poll without a host of others

Well, who should it be? I guess LRP has a higher chance of winning (yet, Aru the much greater chance of posium), but Aru is definitely is much more consistent and has proven to legit, not finishing worse than 5th in the super stacked Vuelta in 2014 in his last 4 GT's. I say thats pretty remarkable and earns him a spot.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

And nothing Froome has shown points to him being able to beat Contador when both are at their absolute peak.
We haven't seen them go head to head in a GT when both are in great shape. 2014 Vuelta would be closest.

i would say if they are both at their peak, there is almost nothing between them in the mountains, froome is a better time trialist. however my argument is based on the assumption that contador is moving away from his physical peak, while froome is smack bang in the middle of his.
i have to disagree, 2014 vuelta showed nothing, other than contador is as savvy as f'ck and recovers from horrific injuries like a Trojan.

I did not say 2014 Vuelta showed anything. I said it's probably the closest we have to a GT where both are in top shape considering they both came back from an injury and both initially prepared for the Tour.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

And nothing Froome has shown points to him being able to beat Contador when both are at their absolute peak.
We haven't seen them go head to head in a GT when both are in great shape. 2014 Vuelta would be closest.

Yet the bookies still favor Froome a lot more than Contador...

The bookies just want to earn as much money as possible. I do not value their opinion at all.

The odds reflects how things stands between those guys pretty well. But if you are of that belief, I can't see why you would go on and throw some €€€ his way since Contador at least is as good as Froome. There is some pretty *** damn good value in his odds then

 

[Valv.Piti]

By the way, I always wonder why people like you don't have made a career out of rigging the bookies since they are stupid and don't know anything!

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Nothing Contador has shown in the last 3 years points to him being able to beat Froome over any parcours when both are at their peak, especially as he is moving away from his best as he gets older, and froome is in the middle of his best years.
Wishing something is so, doesn't make it so, no matter how much some of you (and to a lesser extent I) would like it to be true.

And nothing Froome has shown points to him being able to beat Contador when both are at their absolute peak.
We haven't seen them go head to head in a GT when both are in great shape. 2014 Vuelta would be closest.

Yet the bookies still favor Froome a lot more than Contador...

The bookies just want to earn as much money as possible. I do not value their opinion at all.

The odds reflects how things stands between those guys pretty well. But if you are of that belief, I can't see why you would go on and throw some €€€ his way since Contador at least is as good as Froome. There is some pretty **** damn good value in his odds then

I posted last night that I was actually considering putting some change on Contador, but I never bet so I have no idea how to go about it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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By the way, I always wonder why people like you don't have made a career out of rigging the bookies since they are stupid and don't know anything!

Based on this year, the odds are correct. But this year is not next year and things change. If Contador prepares like in 2014, only a fool would say that Froome has a 6 times higher chance to win than Contador. Especially on a course with no flat ITT.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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By the way, I always wonder why people like you don't have made a career out of rigging the bookies since they are stupid and don't know anything!

Based on this year, the odds are correct. But this year is not next year and things change. If Contador prepares like in 2014, only a fool would say that Froome has a 6 times higher chance to win than Contador.

I don't see where Froome is 6 time the fav as Contador and if so, were? Bet365 has Froome at 2 and Contador at 5 which I think is a relatively low odds considering Quintana also is in the mix. I think everything above 7-8 the money again is value.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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By the way, I always wonder why people like you don't have made a career out of rigging the bookies since they are stupid and don't know anything!

Based on this year, the odds are correct. But this year is not next year and things change. If Contador prepares like in 2014, only a fool would say that Froome has a 6 times higher chance to win than Contador.

I don't see where Froome is 6 time the fav as Contador and if so, were? Bet365 has Froome at 2 and Contador at 5 which I think is a relatively low odds considering Quintana also is in the mix. I think everything above 7-8 the money again is value.

At oddschecker best value for CF is 7/4. Best value for Contador is 31/5. Froome is just above 1 at many (6/5, 5/4) while Contador is 6/1 at most.