At least Bertie will have Mollema & maybe Pantano when things go uphill - he's been alone for the past couple of years. Movistar still owe Bertie for Formigal stage at Vuelta.
Aru from 2015 (whether its the Giro or Vuelta doesnt matter) doesn't hold a candle to the best riders in the world in peak shape. He needs to add another level to that, at least, to win.Krokro said:Pls not Froome again.
Dont underestimate old Alejandro sneaking his way info TDF win, being unmarked while big 4 fight eachother.
Would be great to see 2015 Aru as well.
jaylew said:Thing is, he keeps saying he's working for Nairo.Squire said:It's this year or never. It would have been heresy of me not voting for the Don.
Laplaz said:https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B2ePVIhF7aPxQTVoMHp3ZVJhNUk&export=download
Here you find the official roadbook.
You deliberately left out Quintana or just forgotten him?WheelofGear said:Froome
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ferryman said:You deliberately left out Quintana or just forgotten him?WheelofGear said:Froome
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WheelofGear said:ferryman said:You deliberately left out Quintana or just forgotten him?WheelofGear said:Froome
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He wouldn't be a factor. Too tired after the Giro. Should go stage hunting.
Highly surprising....Son of Amsterhammer said:20 votes for Bertie? Interesting...
ferryman said:WheelofGear said:ferryman said:You deliberately left out Quintana or just forgotten him?WheelofGear said:Froome
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He wouldn't be a factor. Too tired after the Giro. Should go stage hunting.
Not so sure he will be that tired. He was clearly not at 100% at the Giro with the Tour in mind. The gamble at the Giro didn't work but if he has judged it correctly, he could be near 100% for the Tour, he will be in the mix. Whatever, I really can't see any of the others letting him go stage hunting unless he is way down on time, which is very unlikely. But hey ho, time will tell![]()
Nibali was extremely close to him. I think he would be forced to go as he did anyway, but with the difference of winning the pink by a couple of seconds. And if not Nibali then still there were Pinot (suddenly a sprinter) and Zakarin creeping close by.Cookster15 said:Yes time will tell on Quintana in the Tour but I think Tom Dumoulin pushed him much deeper at the Giro than he would have preferred. He and Movistar did after all unambiguously state they were going for the double.
Had TD not been at the Giro in such form I think the double for Quintana might still be a realistic goal today. But instead of 2 from 2 Quintana will likely end up 0 from 2 up against fresher riders like Froome, Porte, even Pinot. I am highly sceptical a Tour / Vuelta double comes close to a Giro / Tour double as Movistar's PR team would have us believe.
Cookster15 said:ferryman said:WheelofGear said:ferryman said:You deliberately left out Quintana or just forgotten him?WheelofGear said:Froome
Bala
Porte
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Dan Martin
Simon Yates
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He wouldn't be a factor. Too tired after the Giro. Should go stage hunting.
Not so sure he will be that tired. He was clearly not at 100% at the Giro with the Tour in mind. The gamble at the Giro didn't work but if he has judged it correctly, he could be near 100% for the Tour, he will be in the mix. Whatever, I really can't see any of the others letting him go stage hunting unless he is way down on time, which is very unlikely. But hey ho, time will tell![]()
Yes time will tell on Quintana in the Tour but I think Tom Dumoulin pushed him much deeper at the Giro than he would have preferred. He and Movistar did after all unambiguously state they were going for the double.
Had TD not been at the Giro in such form I think the double for Quintana might still be a realistic goal today. But instead of 2 from 2 Quintana will likely end up 0 from 2 up against fresher riders like Froome, Porte, even Pinot. I am highly sceptical a Tour / Vuelta double comes close to a Giro / Tour double as Movistar's PR team would have us believe.
Do an infinite amount of hypothetical parallel universes count?Mayomaniac said:Mollema with a crazy long range attack, you can bet your house on that!
Eh, I'll passMayomaniac said:Mollema with a crazy long range attack, you can bet your house on that!