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42x16ss said:
Total BS. A friend of mine spent 3-4 years on conti and pro conti teams before getting disillusioned with the state of pro cycling and retiring at the ripe old age of 23.

Anyhow, in his last year as a pro he was riding with a small group of pros around Como-Lecco including a couple of WT riders when he slid out on a descent and lost consciousness for several minutes. One of the WT riders was not only the first to stop traffic and call the ambulance but also rode with him to the hospital, calling his emergency contact on the way and didn't leave until they arrived.

He then checked in on my friend a few days after he was discharged from hospital.

The WT riders name?

Ivan Basso.

A doper CAN be a good person overall too.
Cool story, too bad Birillo only intended to dope ;)
 
Jul 17, 2012
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
I agree James.

Riders chosing that Great Tour Of California above il Giro, right on. Putting up a laughable Giro Squad, a more than pathetic Liege Bastogne Liege Squad, I see a clear pattern of total disrespect for the cycling classics, this while Wiggi loves his old Giro VHS tapes.

I think that's an exaggeration, Sky's plans for both the Giro and LBL were shredded by injury, you want to hold them to account for that you can, but I think it's evidence of an agenda rather than an objective assessment of the stituation. Froome was going to ride LBL, and Porte the Giro, yes Wiggins didn't switch to the Giro but I don't see that as example of a disrespect for cycling classics. He switched to RvV at short notice, and rode a hell of a race at P-R. I think you are picking examples to suit your narrative, rather than recognising that Sky have had an injury ravaged season so far.
 
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JimmyFingers said:
I think that's an exaggeration, Sky's plans for both the Giro and LBL were shredded by injury, you want to hold them to account for that you can, but I think it's evidence of an agenda rather than an objective assessment of the stituation. Froome was going to ride LBL, and Porte the Giro, yes Wiggins didn't switch to the Giro but I don't see that as example of a disrespect for cycling classics. He switched to RvV at short notice, and rode a hell of a race at P-R. I think you are picking examples to suit your narrative, rather than recognising that Sky have had an injury ravaged season so far.

I don't think their squad for L-B-L was disrespectful. I did think it was a bit weird however that only one of them finished. No-one expects Boswell and Edmondson to be at the sharp end of the race at this stage in their careers, but you would have thought they would be doing everything possible to complete the course. That's where the disrespect lies, if anywhere.
 
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Nathan12 said:
I don't think their squad for L-B-L was disrespectful. I did think it was a bit weird however that only one of them finished. No-one expects Boswell and Edmondson to be at the sharp end of the race at this stage in their careers, but you would have thought they would be doing everything possible to complete the course. That's where the disrespect lies, if anywhere.

Bingo. Nathan Earle is a good rider but surely he wasn't the only one from Sky who was capable of finishing that day. I hope the rest of the squad was grilled for a lack of character.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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42x16ss said:
Bingo. Nathan Earle is a good rider but surely he wasn't the only one from Sky who was capable of finishing that day. I hope the rest of the squad was grilled for a lack of character.

Marginal canings for the non-finishers? ;)
 
Jul 10, 2010
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42x16ss said:
Total BS. A friend of mine spent 3-4 years on conti and pro conti teams before getting disillusioned with the state of pro cycling and retiring at the ripe old age of 23.

Anyhow, in his last year as a pro he was riding with a small group of pros around Como-Lecco including a couple of WT riders when he slid out on a descent and lost consciousness for several minutes. One of the WT riders was not only the first to stop traffic and call the ambulance but also rode with him to the hospital, calling his emergency contact on the way and didn't leave until they arrived.

He then checked in on my friend a few days after he was discharged from hospital.

The WT riders name?

Ivan Basso.

A doper CAN be a good person overall too.
Think about that a little more. The east end thug making sure that girls from the Sally get a decent donation in the pub on Friday night. Old as the hills and I am sorry that so many can't see through it. This is the guy that paraded his child to call his dog by another name, to try prove to the gathered press that the family pet was not called Brillo. It's called selling your grandmother. It is black and white and when I see people putting shades of grey into similar things in life, away from cycling, they are doing it just for their own conscience.
And as to the other post - have I ever met a rider who doped ? Oh yes.
 
Feb 10, 2010
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JimmyFingers said:
Froome was going to ride LBL

Whatever you do, don't mention "sick" at LBL to stage racing domination in 4 days. Is there a plausible explanation? Sure. But, like most everything else with Sky and stage racing, they defy athletic norm on a monthly basis.

Without a doubt, Sky has had a tough start to 2014.
 
Feb 10, 2010
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Freddythefrog said:
Think about that a little more.

Well think about it a little more broadly. It sounds like RoboBasso can be a good guy in a bad situation. And a completely different guy when it's fighting for the paycheck/WT ranking. He wouldn't be the first one.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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42x16ss said:
Total BS. A friend of mine spent 3-4 years on conti and pro conti teams before getting disillusioned with the state of pro cycling and retiring at the ripe old age of 23.

Anyhow, in his last year as a pro he was riding with a small group of pros around Como-Lecco including a couple of WT riders when he slid out on a descent and lost consciousness for several minutes. One of the WT riders was not only the first to stop traffic and call the ambulance but also rode with him to the hospital, calling his emergency contact on the way and didn't leave until they arrived.

He then checked in on my friend a few days after he was discharged from hospital.

The WT riders name?

Ivan Basso.

A doper CAN be a good person overall too.

That's a great story man.
 
Sep 18, 2013
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Have to say, during the Giro's recent start in Ireland, Basso was one of the riders who genuinely had time for his fans outside team hotels etc. He had time for photos and was happy to talk and spend time with fans.

Seems like a really nice guy.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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nomapnocompass said:
Have to say, during the Giro's recent start in Ireland, Basso was one of the riders who genuinely had time for his fans outside team hotels etc. He had time for photos and was happy to talk and spend time with fans.

Seems like a really nice guy.

That's the impression I got from "Overcoming" also.
 
Mar 25, 2013
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Wiggins said earlier this year that he believed the American public had been “robbed” by the seven-time Tour de France champion’s actions, adding that he felt it incumbent upon him, as “one of only a handful of clean Tour winners”, to do what he could to restore the credibility of cycling in the States.

Does he stand by those comments? “Definitely,” Wiggins said. “There’s kind of no one here. Well, they’ve got these incredible young riders, future Tour winners in guys like Tejay van Garderen and Joe Dombrowksi, super talented guys like Taylor Phinney... but they are relatively unknown to the wider public. You mention cycling to anyone here and the first thing they think of is Lance Armstrong.

“So there is a gap and if I can leave a bit of a mark post-cycling in terms of helping to instill the faith a little bit more – because there are not many of us, Tour winners with no history whatsoever, no mumblings, no rumblings...I mean you get all this garbage on Twitter but actual factual...there is none of that with me and never has been because of the way I have conducted my whole career.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...ns-faith-in-cycling-post-Lance-Armstrong.html
 
Apr 19, 2010
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I really like Wiggins but I wish he wouldn't "talk".

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Sep 29, 2012
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happychappy said:
I really like Wiggins but I wish he wouldn't "talk".

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I can see why
According to the Daily Star, the Tour de France winner was approached by compere Jon Hammond as one of his cycling shirts went up for auction. Wiggins’ face appeared on the big screen at the luxury Rudding Park Hotel near Harrogate and he said: “You’ve got a posh voice. I like posh voices. S*** me off.”
http://road.cc/content/news/99944-sir-bradley-wiggins-trouble-over-crude-joke-charity-dinner
 
Sep 18, 2013
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“Just little things like the way I spent my 34th birthday at the end of April. I did 7½ hours on the bike that day in Majorca. I had no breakfast, and didn’t eat anything on the bike all day because I was on a bit of a severe weight-loss thing post-Paris-Roubaix...."

And then he wonders why people post "all this garbage on Twitter" about metabolic modulators, aicar, telmisartan and thyroxine.

I would love to see the power data for the above workout. His statement above will ring alarm bells with anyone who has the most basic knowledge of endocrinology.
 
Dec 13, 2012
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nomapnocompass said:
“Just little things like the way I spent my 34th birthday at the end of April. I did 7½ hours on the bike that day in Majorca. I had no breakfast, and didn’t eat anything on the bike all day because I was on a bit of a severe weight-loss thing post-Paris-Roubaix...."

And then he wonders why people post "all this garbage on Twitter" about metabolic modulators, aicar, telmisartan and thyroxine.

I would love to see the power data for the above workout. His statement above will ring alarm bells with anyone who has the most basic knowledge of endocrinology.

7.5 hours on my bike with no breakfast and no food all day #doingthelittlethings
 
Dec 13, 2012
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nomapnocompass said:
“Just little things like the way I spent my 34th birthday at the end of April. I did 7½ hours on the bike that day in Majorca. I had no breakfast, and didn’t eat anything on the bike all day because I was on a bit of a severe weight-loss thing post-Paris-Roubaix...."

And then he wonders why people post "all this garbage on Twitter" about metabolic modulators, aicar, telmisartan and thyroxine.

I would love to see the power data for the above workout. His statement above will ring alarm bells with anyone who has the most basic knowledge of endocrinology.

Those sort of starvation rides sound like something out of the 1970s, I thought Sky were supposed to be scientific? No way you can train like that clean without making yourself ill.
 
Jul 1, 2011
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SundayRider said:
Those sort of starvation rides sound like something out of the 1970s, I thought Sky were supposed to be scientific? No way you can train like that clean without making yourself ill.

Which is kind of ironic, as every time Froome, Porte and Kennaugh have got ill in recent weeks, it's been accepted here as evidence of them doping. . .
 

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