Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

If Quintana had taken two minutes out of Wiggins in 700 metres I don't think anyone would be talking about Sky anymore.

If Wiggins was still part of the grupetto we would not have seen a British armada on this forum?

 

[thehog]

So when Sir David Millar decided to speak for everyone and say that the whole peloton believes Wiggins clean, he was not telling the truth? Millar, tell a lie? Impossible.

The guy who has a financial investment in the team he rides for and his sister works for Sky.

Conflict of interest, no?

 

[Caruut]

I dont think anyone disputes that the levels of doping are not at the levels of 1990 to 2005, but the word cleanER is a misnomer. Taking half a blood bag instead of a full one is still doping.

The use of cleanER suggests that a majority are clean. I doubt that.

If 19/20 teams in a race are using no blood manipulation and the remaining one works at half the levels seen in 2003, say, then overall there is 1/40 as much doping as there was before. However, I would say a race where everyone is equally (not that they were) doped to the gills is better than a race where just one team is doped halfway to the gills.

Note: I am not saying this is the situation now and that the one team is Sky - I am pretty sure that top teams like OPQS, Katusha, Astana, Movistar and BMC have some doping if not team-wide programs, and that many smaller teams tolerate a large amount of "don't ask, don't tell" doping. I am merely using an example to illustrate that a reduction in the absolute level of doping does not make the race necessarily less tainted.

 

[xcleigh]

Asked and answered before xcleigh.

Wigan = Garmin
ManU = SKY

Wiggo = scouser

Bad analogy.

And that has to do with money, how?

 

[xcleigh]

I'm not claiming people aren't motivated by money. The poster I responded to was claiming Wiggins wasn't.

No I am, yet again, saying that we don't actually know wether he is or is not motivated solely by money (as was suggested). And just for the record I am also not motivated (solely) by money.

 

[xcleigh]

Is your avatar the robot from Laputa?

Sure is, or maybe a skybot.

 

[thehog]

I think there might still be love in the air...

Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong 1h
Heard the press room at the #Giro "cheered" when Wiggins crashed on a wet descent today. If true, that is completely f'd.


Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong 1h
I'd like to see every 1 of those journos mount up and scream down a slick/steep downhill at upwards of 50 mph. Then we'll see who's cheering

 

[webbie146]

I think there might still be love in the air...

That's weird, why defend Wiggo? Wiggo bashed him. He should cheer for Nibali, Nibali never said anything bad about Lance. Also they where a good team in 2009 in that decent

 

[blackcat]

lance needs any friends he can get. even betsy

 

[Bala Verde]

I think there might still be love in the air...

Who is that guy you are quoting?

Oh, the biggest anglosaxon fraud in the history of cycling.

Does he still have that lounge room with those 7 framed yellow jerseys?

 

[Potomac]

Racist remarks from supermoderators.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

 

[thehog]

Who is that guy you are quoting?

Oh, the biggest anglosaxon fraud in the history of cycling.

Does he still have that lounge room with those 7 framed yellow jerseys?

It appears he's still lying.

David Walsh
‏@DavidWalshST
Wrong to say journalists in press room clapped when Wiggins went down. More like a 'wow, big favourite in trouble, this is a story.'

 

[Bala Verde]

It appears he's still lying.

No news there.

 

[del1962]

Racist remarks from supermoderators.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

Why is that racist, Armstrong is the biggest Anglo saxon fraud in cycling, there are others who are not anglo-saxon he may considered bigger frauds.

 

[hrotha]

It appears he's still lying.

At least one journo witness disagrees.

 

[BroDeal]

At least one journo witness disagrees.

Let me guess. It was Liggett.

 

[del1962]

Let me guess. It was Liggett.

Actually Waslh.

 

[BroDeal]

Actually Waslh.

Nope. Walsh the one who tweeted the journalists did not laugh but he heard something from the back.

 

[del1962]

Nope. Walsh the one who tweeted the journalists did not laugh but he heard something from the back.

I though he mean't disagreed that they cheered, maybe I read it wrong.

 

[hrotha]

Let me guess. It was Liggett.

Neal Rogers.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Racist remarks from supermoderators.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

Grow a pair, like your hero.

The Sky dope doesnt seem to work in the rain. They should consult the bikeshop owner from Austin.

 

[del1962]

Neal Rogers.

David Casey on twitter to Rogers

fk sake Rogers, did no one tell you about omertà!!

 

[del1962]

This is what Rogers said

Any time there's a crash, it elicits gasps, reactions. That's normal. Wiggo's fall brought all that plus a few cheers, claps

Which is not the press room cheering as Armstrong says, but a few pathetic Journalists.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

This is what Rogers said



Which is not the press room cheering as Armstrong says, but a few pathetic Journalists.

Be interesting to know who, and why?

 

[Fatclimber]

@DavidWalshST: Wrong to say journalists in press room clapped when Wiggins went down. More like a 'wow, big favourite in trouble, this is a story.'