Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[ray j willings]

Re:

"He looked rather uneasy and "tied up" on the climbs, very often out of the saddle and pushing too long a gear relatively to his power outputs."

Does Dr Ferrari realize Alberto has been climbing like that for years?

With just about everyone climbing in granny ring gears, when Bertie his climbing on the big ring he does look more sluggish at times ..." it's just relative to the granny spinners"

 

[SeriousSam]

He didn't looked uneasy and tied up and pusing too long a gear relatively to his power outputs in 2014.

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

"He looked rather uneasy and "tied up" on the climbs, very often out of the saddle and pushing too long a gear relatively to his power outputs."

Does Dr Ferrari realize Alberto has been climbing like that for years?

With just about everyone climbing in granny ring gears, when Bertie his climbing on the big ring he does look more sluggish at times ..." it's just relative to the granny spinners"

I have noticed that his climbing style is a little different post suspension. He "weaves" more on the bike when climbing and does seem to be pushing a slightly bigger gear than at his absolute best ('09 TdF, '11 Giro).

Still a picture to watch on the bike though, his position is perfect and pedal stroke flows very nicely.

 

[rm7]

Re: Re:

"He looked rather uneasy and "tied up" on the climbs, very often out of the saddle and pushing too long a gear relatively to his power outputs."

Does Dr Ferrari realize Alberto has been climbing like that for years?

With just about everyone climbing in granny ring gears, when Bertie his climbing on the big ring he does look more sluggish at times ..." it's just relative to the granny spinners"

I have noticed that his climbing style is a little different post suspension. He "weaves" more on the bike when climbing and does seem to be pushing a slightly bigger gear than at his absolute best ('09 TdF, '11 Giro).

Still a picture to watch on the bike though, his position is perfect and pedal stroke flows very nicely.

I think it was De Jongh who changed it prior to the 2014 season. In 2012 Vuelta he was really dancing like before, but he couldn't keep his speed after attacks. Same with 2013, just worse. He was changed when 2014 started, pushing a slighthy higher gear.

I remember everyone (including myself) always thinking he was struggling, because we had just witness 2013 and he was using the higher gear. He didn't seem so fluid as before. He proved us wrong everytime, and especially in Al Paisco where he dropped Valverde like a stone.

But I actually agree with Ferrari on this one. Contador did look uneasy at times, also because of a weak team of course, but more importantly because he wasn't in top shape. Ferrari is simply just stating the facts, that some people maybe have a hard time to admit.

Contador simply needs to up his level if he wants to ride with the best in the Tour de France, because Froome/Nibali/Quintana will ride much better than Aru, and maybe even faster than Landa.

In my opinion Landa wasn't climbing extraordinary, but better than expected, but in the end it was just Contador who was climbing below his normal level due to not being in top shape.

The question is... can he?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Still waiting for a member of the press to ask clentadoppucci if he is still using del moral.

When armstrong returned i posted that he would only have done so in consultation with ferrari (despite the ban). Armstrong denied it at the time but was found out later.

I have no doubt clentadoppucci is still working with del moral who had followed him from team to team. Since del moral had coordinated all of clentadoppuccis blood bags and doping to win all his GTs, how could he suddenly do without?

So when will kimmage and walsh get him on record denying the undeniable (continuing his pathological lying on all counts).

Still waiting for those TERRIBLE allergies he ALWAYS suffers from to hit this year like at the dauphine in 2013. Lol. What a fraud.

You're confusing Del Moral with Pepe Marti.

 

[djpbaltimore]

It will be interesting to see if the doping spotlight from the media shines more brightly on Contador in this TDF, especially considering he is trying to match a feat last seen accomplished by Pantani.

 

[Big Doopie]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

 

[HiroAntagonist]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

Why do you call Bertie clentadoppucci? We realize he's probably doped to the gills, but you come off as trying way too hard. Just saying.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Trying too hard? Big Doopie? Impossible!

 

[BigMac]

I get the clen part.

I'd get the pucci if he was Italian.

 

[Angliru]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

Why do you call Bertie clentadoppucci? We realize he's probably doped to the gills, but you come off as trying way too hard. Just saying.

His chosen name is "BIG DOOPIE"! Why would anyone pay him any attention? He thinks the name he's chosen for Contador is clever. It ain't!

 

[LaFlorecita]

I get the clen part.

I'd get the pucci if he was Italian.

It's cause Big Doopie thinks Contador is like Chiapucci, would be a mediocre domestique without the dope.

 

[BigMac]

I get the clen part.

I'd get the pucci if he was Italian.

It's cause Big Doopie thinks Contador is like Chiapucci, would be a mediocre domestique without the dope.

Thanks. What would the already mediocre doped domestiques be, then?

I think Valverdewhowasbannedandreturnedbetterthanwhenhewasdoped would be less far-fetched.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

Why do you call Bertie clentadoppucci? We realize he's probably doped to the gills, but you come off as trying way too hard. Just saying.

Nah it was not that hard to come up with that name.

Good work BigDoopie don't let these guys bring you down.

 

[The_Cheech]

I get the clen part.

I'd get the pucci if he was Italian.

It'd make more sense to call him "Clembutador".

Anyhow, "pucci" in Spanish would be spelled "puchi".

 

[ferryman]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

Why do you call Bertie clentadoppucci? We realize he's probably doped to the gills, but you come off as trying way too hard. Just saying.

Preaching to the converted Big D in a Contador doping thread. 78% agree with you more or less I guess. Hope you feel better you got that off your chest though. Nothing is 'real' with any GC contender my friend, deal with it and your hatred of Contador might, maybe might, lessen, he's no worse than any GT guy out there. But please do feel free to point out to me who I've got completely wrong who you obviously think is clean over Clentador..

 

[The Hitch]

Re:

It will be interesting to see if the doping spotlight from the media shines more brightly on Contador in this TDF, especially considering he is trying to match a feat last seen accomplished by Pantani.

My guess is that if he wins by 6 minutes while matching Armstrong's best times on popular mtfs, he will get a lot of attention and if he hobbles to a silent 4th place without winning a stage, he won't get that much attention

 

[The Hitch]

As far as nicknames go, Alpuerto Clentador is much better.

 

[HiroAntagonist]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

Why do you call Bertie clentadoppucci? We realize he's probably doped to the gills, but you come off as trying way too hard. Just saying.

Preaching to the converted Big D in a Contador doping thread. 78% agree with you more or less I guess. Hope you feel better you got that off your chest though. Nothing is 'real' with any GC contender my friend, deal with it and your hatred of Contador might, maybe might, lessen, he's no worse than any GT guy out there. But please do feel free to point out to me who I've got completely wrong who you obviously think is clean over Clentador..

Bertie is my fav rider, I just didn't understand the juvenile nickname.

 

[Archibald]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

doping on Disco?? Nooooo... say it isn't so! Levi and JV said they all stopped in 2006

As for being a "pioneer" in the sport and doping circles, pffft!! Hardly a pioneer considering what was going on prior to 2007

 

[42x16ss]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

If you think that Contador is a doping pioneer you need to be checked by a physician

 

[ebandit]

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"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

Why do you call Bertie clentadoppucci? We realize he's probably doped to the gills, but you come off as trying way too hard. Just saying.

Preaching to the converted Big D in a Contador doping thread. 78% agree with you more or less I guess. Hope you feel better you got that off your chest though. Nothing is 'real' with any GC contender my friend, deal with it and your hatred of Contador might, maybe might, lessen, he's no worse than any GT guy out there. But please do feel free to point out to me who I've got completely wrong who you obviously think is clean over Clentador..

Bertie is my fav rider, I just didn't understand the juvenile nickname.

what about the childish pistol shooting in celebration? .......................

alberto is fave to many ........ still a doper deserves flak.........

Mark L

 

[del1962]

"An unnamed rider from CSC’s 2008 roster claimed that Riis had informed Carlos Sastre that he could blood dope and avoid detection by using small blood bags, citing the 2007 Discovery Channel team as an example."

And, omg, who won their first tdf in 2007 riding for discovery.

Lol, clentadoppucci is a pioneer in doping that carefully chose the teams he rode/rides for to support his need.

The great "exciting, attacking" myth is as "real" as armstrong.

doping on Disco?? Nooooo... say it isn't so! Levi and JV said they all stopped in 2006

As for being a "pioneer" in the sport and doping circles, pffft!! Hardly a pioneer considering what was going on prior to 2007

Did you never read page 11 and 12 of Levi's Affadavit

http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Leipheimer,+Levi,+Affidavit.pdf

clearly describes Discovery blood doping at 2007 TDF

 

[SeriousSam]

Indeed. They stopped after 2007, not 2006.

 

[sniper]

Did you never read page 11 and 12 of Levi's Affadavit

http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Leipheimer,+Levi,+Affidavit.pdf

clearly describes Discovery blood doping at 2007 TDF

yes he does, but not clear enough for del1962, who still believes those sympathetic garmin guys when they say they stopped in 06.